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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Getting a dependants visa Reply with quote

Hi I have a question and was looking for some help. I was wait listed by EPIK and so have been looking for new jobs. I am married and my wife will need a dependants visa. With EPIK her visa was going to be issued at the same time as mine in London, but if I apply for other jobs will she need a seperate visa issuance from mine sponsored by the school ? or can we simply get the visa for her using the marriage certificate and my issuance number.
Does anyone have experience of this ? I have gathered that being married limits the amount of jobs available to me but I cant believe that there are not schools who accept married teachers. Any help is appreciated.
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Lolimahro



Joined: 19 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you get your ARC card, you can sponsor your wife's dependant visa using your Alien Registration number. So, she may be in the country for 1~2 months without an ARC of her own. For my husband, who is from the U.S. (as am I), he could come into Korea for up to 90 days without a visa. You'll need to check to see whether that applies to your wife depending on what her nationality is. If she can come to Korea without a visa for up to 90 days, then she could accompany you and you could get her a visa later. If you are worried about things going awry then you could come by yourself and when you get your ARC send for her to come over and you can apply for her visa. The visa my husband (and son) have is the F3 dependants visa. F3 dependants are also eligible to be enrolled in National Health Insurance.
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the reply, my wife is Mexican so she does not need to pre arrange a tourist visa and can get the 90 day entry. I also checked and she cant get the F3 in London as she does not have permanent residency for the UK so we are going to have to go with changing it over in Korea. Now my only concern I suppose is entering on a one way ticket so I may Just buy her a return ticket so they dont ask any questions.

Also our marriage certificate the original is in Spanish from Mexico but we have an apostille and I have a version translated into English along with a translation of the apostille. Does anyone know if this will be acceptable ? There is not really a great deal more I can do with the certificate to prove its genuine.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adzee1 wrote:
Hey thanks for the reply, my wife is Mexican so she does not need to pre arrange a tourist visa and can get the 90 day entry. I also checked and she cant get the F3 in London as she does not have permanent residency for the UK so we are going to have to go with changing it over in Korea. Now my only concern I suppose is entering on a one way ticket so I may Just buy her a return ticket so they dont ask any questions.

Also our marriage certificate the original is in Spanish from Mexico but we have an apostille and I have a version translated into English along with a translation of the apostille. Does anyone know if this will be acceptable ? There is not really a great deal more I can do with the certificate to prove its genuine.


Certified translation to English or Korean is adequate. If the translation has an apostille it is also fine (if a bit of overkill).

As to the ticket, it might be better (cheaper) to get a refundable ticket to Japan or the Philippines rather than a return ticket to the UK. Shop around.

You can apply for her change of status from tourist to F3 at the same time that you apply for your ARC and she can make her application for her ARC at the same time.

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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tom, yes i thought about that but then i also wondered that maybe immigration might think it strange that I have a work visa and my wife is going to go for a vacation in Korea followed by a trip to Japan.. but then I dont know how much they investigate or think about things like that really.

For the marriage certificate, the apostle is from Mexico and then its translated by a certified Mexican government translator into English so I hope that will be ok for them. I suppose I could go all out and get the translation notorised here in Engalnd aswell just be safe.
I still cease to be surprised by some of the various hoops I have had to jump through to get to this stage so I dont want anything to go wrong Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adzee1 wrote:
Thanks Tom, yes i thought about that but then i also wondered that maybe immigration might think it strange that I have a work visa and my wife is going to go for a vacation in Korea followed by a trip to Japan.. but then I dont know how much they investigate or think about things like that really.

For the marriage certificate, the apostle is from Mexico and then its translated by a certified Mexican government translator into English so I hope that will be ok for them. I suppose I could go all out and get the translation notorised here in Engalnd aswell just be safe.
I still cease to be surprised by some of the various hoops I have had to jump through to get to this stage so I dont want anything to go wrong Smile


English translation with a government stamp and you are good as gold for proof of family status.

Compared to the hoops for an E2 the F3 is a) simple and B) can be done in country without the need of a visa run.

As far as the trip to Japan goes, immigration doesn't care. It is the airline who will give you grief (and deny her boarding) if she does not meet the requirements for a visa free entry.

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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say government stamp do you mean from the English government or the Mexican government ?

It has a stamp from Mexico, Its just as it was issued in Mexico the most i can with it here in England is notorise it as being a true copy of the original from a lawyer.
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So my recruiter and the school want me to get my wifes F3 dependent visa in London which I am fine with but....

The London consulate say that they cannot issue the visa 100% because my wife has a tourist visa for England.

Korean immigration in Seoul say that they can 100% issue the visa regardless of what visa my wife has in England as long as she has the visa issuance number and our marriage certificate.

This is really frustrating how can 2 departments have totally different answers on such as simple question. Does anyone have experience of this or any idea as to who may be right ??
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
adzee1 wrote:
Thanks Tom, yes i thought about that but then i also wondered that maybe immigration might think it strange that I have a work visa and my wife is going to go for a vacation in Korea followed by a trip to Japan.. but then I dont know how much they investigate or think about things like that really.

For the marriage certificate, the apostle is from Mexico and then its translated by a certified Mexican government translator into English so I hope that will be ok for them. I suppose I could go all out and get the translation notorised here in Engalnd aswell just be safe.
I still cease to be surprised by some of the various hoops I have had to jump through to get to this stage so I dont want anything to go wrong Smile


English translation with a government stamp and you are good as gold for proof of family status.

Compared to the hoops for an E2 the F3 is a) simple and B) can be done in country without the need of a visa run.

As far as the trip to Japan goes, immigration doesn't care. It is the airline who will give you grief (and deny her boarding) if she does not meet the requirements for a visa free entry.

.


Hey Tom, when you say the airline would give her grief. Would that be in London ? and do you know if this applies to all airlines ??

Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adzee1 wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
adzee1 wrote:
Thanks Tom, yes i thought about that but then i also wondered that maybe immigration might think it strange that I have a work visa and my wife is going to go for a vacation in Korea followed by a trip to Japan.. but then I dont know how much they investigate or think about things like that really.

For the marriage certificate, the apostle is from Mexico and then its translated by a certified Mexican government translator into English so I hope that will be ok for them. I suppose I could go all out and get the translation notorised here in Engalnd aswell just be safe.
I still cease to be surprised by some of the various hoops I have had to jump through to get to this stage so I dont want anything to go wrong Smile


English translation with a government stamp and you are good as gold for proof of family status.

Compared to the hoops for an E2 the F3 is a) simple and B) can be done in country without the need of a visa run.

As far as the trip to Japan goes, immigration doesn't care. It is the airline who will give you grief (and deny her boarding) if she does not meet the requirements for a visa free entry.

.


Hey Tom, when you say the airline would give her grief. Would that be in London ? and do you know if this applies to all airlines ??

Thanks


IF she has an actual visa the airline won't bother her.

If she is coming on a visa waiver stamp the airline will ensure that she meets the requirements of entry (exit ticket) or they will deny her boarding (in London) since they bear the cost of her removal if she does not meet the requirements for visa free travel.

Yes, with a visa confirmation number the London consulate CAN issue an F3 visa, even if she is just a tourist in England (but it might take a day or two while they confirm with Korea so add that to the processing time). They will just say no until they have no choice (easier than finding the correct answer - get used to it, welcome to Korea).

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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the reply.

Yes I just called the consulate again and now they say that they can issue it as long as her visa issuance number is correct. Which I assume it will be Smile

Then I said ok, " so if you dont issue it she is still ok to change her status from tourist to F3 visa?"

to which the woman replied " you cant change your visa status from tourist to F3 visa in Korea "
What is wrong with this goddamn consulate they seem really clueless !!

Just to confirm I can change the tourist visa to F3 right ?

I spoke to immigration in Seoul and I all the websites I read say that you can change it in Korea. I would just rather get it here so that I dont have to buy an onward ticket.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adzee1 wrote:
Hey thanks for the reply.

Yes I just called the consulate again and now they say that they can issue it as long as her visa issuance number is correct. Which I assume it will be Smile

Then I said ok, " so if you dont issue it she is still ok to change her status from tourist to F3 visa?"

to which the woman replied " you cant change your visa status from tourist to F3 visa in Korea "
What is wrong with this goddamn consulate they seem really clueless !!

Just to confirm I can change the tourist visa to F3 right ?

I spoke to immigration in Seoul and I all the websites I read say that you can change it in Korea. I would just rather get it here so that I dont have to buy an onward ticket.


With a visa confirmation number she can get a visa in the UK.
If she enters as a tourist she can change her status to F3 in Korea AFTER your ARC is applied for/issued.

My wife and I have done it both ways (obtained a visa abroad and changed her status after arrival in Korea).

.

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