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Getting ripped off by Taxis
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furtakk



Joined: 02 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually on second thought. my parents were severely ripped off when they arrived. they took the arex to seoul station and ended up paying 20K for the guy to take them to gwanghwamun. couldn't believe it when they told me. should have been like a 5K ride max. they must have gotten in with one of the guys who wait outside arrivals.
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

furtakk wrote:
actually on second thought. my parents were severely ripped off when they arrived. they took the arex to seoul station and ended up paying 20K for the guy to take them to gwanghwamun. couldn't believe it when they told me. should have been like a 5K ride max. they must have gotten in with one of the guys who wait outside arrivals.


Or they mistakenly hopped on one of those black 'de luxe' taxi?
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swapping out, like switching the bills a bit like a magician doing a trick with cards, but not very well in this instance. I handed him 30k and I saw him bring up some notes, which I thought was weird because i gave him exactly right amount, no change was needed. Its kind of hard to call them on it if you cant speak Korean well enough and they would have to be willing to lose face terribly to admit they were trying to rip you off so thats not going to happen. I have some friends of friends who are police and I have their business cards, so after I showed him that and pulled out my phone (total bluff, Im not calling a cop at 3 am unless its really serious) he just motioned for me to get out and acted like I was getting away with a free ride.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
furtakk wrote:
actually on second thought. my parents were severely ripped off when they arrived. they took the arex to seoul station and ended up paying 20K for the guy to take them to gwanghwamun. couldn't believe it when they told me. should have been like a 5K ride max. they must have gotten in with one of the guys who wait outside arrivals.


Or they mistakenly hopped on one of those black 'de luxe' taxi?


Those really aren't that expensive.
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought the black cabs were more for longer distances. They start out around 5800, but you the prices dont seem to be too astronomical. Also, Ive heard they are less touchy about stupid things like picking and dropping you off on the wrong side of the street or crossing city boundaries. Korea is the first place Ive been where the taxi drivers had such crazy demands. 'Im paying you to turn around, whats the problem?'
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Hongdae looking for a cab home to Sookmyung Women's Uni Station. The driver quoted me 30k. Naturally, I laughed at his cheekiness, and got in another cab. The fare was 7,000.
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jammo



Joined: 12 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn Korean.
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Learn Korean.


Rather learn a more useful language in my free time and put up with hassles every so often. The amount of time required to learn Korean well enough to have a heated conversation with a cab driver vs the amount of time the average non-lifer lives here is not worth the trouble.
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jammo



Joined: 12 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fair enough. I didn't mean to fluency though

When I first got here I had a couple of similar situations with drivers but after learning even the most basic stuff you can avoid a lot of shit.

Not exclusive to Korea
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daunting



Joined: 05 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, I've had some surprisingly good experiences with taxi drivers here. For example, I find that the taxi drivers in Daejeon often round the fare down. Here are two specific instances of kind drivers that stand out for me:

(1) When I first arrived in Korea at ICN airport, I was very confused and desperately needed to contact my boss. I couldn't get the pay phones at the airport to work. A random taxi driver handed me his phone to make a few calls. I offered to pay him, but he refused.

(2) About one week ago, I had to go to a specific building in Daejeon in an area I had never seen before. When the taxi driver arrived at the address I had given him, there were no real signs for the place I needed to be. I looked a little confused and nervous, and I'm sure the driver sensed this. He then ran around the street (for free) and asked 4 or 5 locals if we were in the right place.
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hapkido1996



Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Location: Anyang, Gyeong-gi

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbud656 wrote:
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Learn Korean.


Rather learn a more useful language in my free time and put up with hassles every so often. The amount of time required to learn Korean well enough to have a heated conversation with a cab driver vs the amount of time the average non-lifer lives here is not worth the trouble.


If you're living in Korea, what's a more useful language to learn than Korean? Even if you're only going to stay for a year. It's not like you have to become fluent to solve/avoid this sort of problem. I don't know about you, but if I were to spend a week's vacation in, say, Zimbabwe, I'd scrap together as many useful phrases as I could to make my trip a lot more pleasant. Language is power.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My taxi experiences in over 6 years in Korea have usually been fine (nothing especially good or bad), sometimes good (e.g. getting out and helping me with groceries), and rarely bad. Very rarely bad, actually.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hapkido1996 wrote:
bbud656 wrote:
Quote:
Learn Korean.


Rather learn a more useful language in my free time and put up with hassles every so often. The amount of time required to learn Korean well enough to have a heated conversation with a cab driver vs the amount of time the average non-lifer lives here is not worth the trouble.


If you're living in Korea, what's a more useful language to learn than Korean? Even if you're only going to stay for a year. It's not like you have to become fluent to solve/avoid this sort of problem. I don't know about you, but if I were to spend a week's vacation in, say, Zimbabwe, I'd scrap together as many useful phrases as I could to make my trip a lot more pleasant. Language is power.


In Zimbabwe, English is the most useful language to know.

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English is traditionally used for official business. It serves as a common language for most Zimbabweans. From around fourth grade, schooling is conducted almost entirely in English.
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you're living in Korea, what's a more useful language to learn than Korean? Even if you're only going to stay for a year. It's not like you have to become fluent to solve/avoid this sort of problem. I don't know about you, but if I were to spend a week's vacation in, say, Zimbabwe, I'd scrap together as many useful phrases as I could to make my trip a lot more pleasant. Language is power.


I know more than a few useful phrases in Korean. Im not advocating being completely ignorant of the language surrounding me. Im saying learning enough Korean to diffuse a heated situation involving cons and threats takes more time than im willing to put in. Its much easier to just call my gf or a friend to deal with then spend hours in the classroom when I would rather spend that time on my other interests or learning something like Spanish that is going to be more beneficial when I go back to the states. Simple 'learn Korean' posts here aren't adding anything to the discussion and come off sounding pretty condescending.
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nate1983



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:

In Zimbabwe, English is the most useful language to know.

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English is traditionally used for official business. It serves as a common language for most Zimbabweans. From around fourth grade, schooling is conducted almost entirely in English.


I was about to say that - I have some colleagues from Zimbabwe and their English is every bit as good as any other educated native speaker's.

But his point stands. If you're spending even a year or two in a country where the English level is still rudimentary, I think it would behoove most people to get to the level where they can handle telling a taxi driver not to rip them off.
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