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cwflaneur
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 Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: What sort of imbeciles write/translate for the Chosun Ilbo? |
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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2005/08/15/2005081561017.html
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Korean Students' Dislike of Japan Not Shared by Japanese Counterparts
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| Korean students feel least friendly toward Japan, while Japanese students placed Korea as No. 2 on their list of nations they feel friendly towards after the United States, a survey has found. |
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If the heading is to be interpreted as it is written, it would mean that the Japanese don't dislike Japan. What the author evidently means, though, is that the Japanese don't dislike Korea - in which case the heading should read
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| Korean Students' Dislike of Japan Not Reciprocated by Japanese Counterparts |
Is it that difficult to use the correct word, especially in the headline of all places?
Who hires these people? I desperately hope that the writer does not speak English as a first language.
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
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recessiontime
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Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
The military bases on their land causes resentment. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just sickens me how so many Koreans will believe the most absurd anti-American propaganda lies:
In 2002, I had some of my university students (and this is a good university) swear that it was totally true that the vehicle drivers �laughed and celebrated their kill� and the backed up and ran over the girls again for fun.
I was absolutely stunned that someone could believe something so absurd and implausible.
I asked where they got that information and the answers were either �I read it on the Internet� or �My senior told me�. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
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Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
The military bases on their land causes resentment. |
There are US military bases in Japan too, but only 1.5% of Japanese students chose the US as the nation they feel least friendly toward. It's interesting that almost as many Korean students hate the nation that freed Korea from Japan as Japan itself. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Legacy of empire. In the same way that peoples of former states owned by Britain still have a resentment even though outside of the usual rascists there will be no ill will in return.
The anti-US this is also puzzling, I mean its not hyperbole to say that the US was the reason that the Japanese Empire in Korea ended and that without the US South Korea would not exist.
What more does a country have to do do to be liked? |
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ZIFA
Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with sending articles to korean english publications is that they "edit" and "correct" them with their own grammar misconceptions.
There is nothing more frustrating than seeing something you have written mangled by some editor with a limited understanding of what is his second language. I know its all an ego thing but...accch. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
New to the country? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
The military bases on their land causes resentment. |
And the South Korean left has done a fine job of blaming the peninsula's division on the US. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Kepler wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
Wow! That article was seriously disturbing.
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| The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent). |
Why would South Korean students dislike the U.S. more than North Korea? That makes no sense. |
The military bases on their land causes resentment. |
There are US military bases in Japan too, but only 1.5% of Japanese students chose the US as the nation they feel least friendly toward. It's interesting that almost as many Korean students hate the nation that freed Korea from Japan as Japan itself. |
Japan's low anti-American figure is probably due to the fact that 75% of US bases in Japan are in Okinawa. So most Japanese don't see US soldiers milling around their communities. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
Legacy of empire. In the same way that peoples of former states owned by Britain still have a resentment even though outside of the usual rascists there will be no ill will in return.
The anti-US this is also puzzling, I mean its not hyperbole to say that the US was the reason that the Japanese Empire in Korea ended and that without the US South Korea would not exist.
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While this is undeniably true it is also 100% true that the U.S reason(s) for entering WWII had nothing to do with the freedom of Korea. At the end of WWII it cut a deal with the Soviets to divide up Korea with a cavalier disregard for the locals' wishes.
And even if this were not so...how long exactly does a country have to be grateful? Should the U.S still be grateful to France for their assistance in their war of independence? |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| It's not so much a problem with being "grateful" but the fact that so many are "ungrateful". |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| ZIFA wrote: |
The problem with sending articles to korean english publications is that they "edit" and "correct" them with their own grammar misconceptions.
There is nothing more frustrating than seeing something you have written mangled by some editor with a limited understanding of what is his second language. I know its all an ego thing but...accch. |
+1; you'd think that the well-read OP would have figured this before writing...being that she's been here since 2009~~common sense never fails to escape some, I guess. (Surely she's far from a journalist, to say the least; learn the system, then criticize it babe.) |
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ZIFA
Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| rchristo10 wrote: |
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The problem with sending articles to korean english publications is that they "edit" and "correct" them with their own grammar misconceptions.
There is nothing more frustrating than seeing something you have written mangled by some editor with a limited understanding of what is his second language. I know its all an ego thing but...accch. |
+1; you'd think that the well-read OP would have figured this before writing...being that she's been here since 2009~~common sense never fails to escape some, I guess. (Surely she's far from a journalist, to say the least; learn the system, then criticize it babe.) |
If you've ever had your submissions butchered by Korean editors (or any editors for that matter) you will feel exactly like british media commentator Giles Coren:
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Read Giles Coren's letter to Times subs
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 23 July 2008 19.16 BST Article history
...I don't really like people tinkering with my copy for the sake of tinkering. I do not enjoy the suggestion that you have a better ear or eye for how I want my words to read than I do. Owen, we discussed your turning three of my long sentences into six short ones in a single piece, and how that wasn't going to happen anymore, so I'm really hoping it wasn't you that ****ed up my review on saturday.
It was the final sentence. Final sentences are very, very important. A piece builds to them, they are the little jingle that the reader takes with him into the weekend....(etc)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jul/23/mediamonkey |
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World Traveler
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