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Going to Buy a Gaming Comp. on Sat., What Should I Get?
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:50 am    Post subject: Going to Buy a Gaming Comp. on Sat., What Should I Get? Reply with quote

I haven't bought a computer in over 10 years. The computer I am using now is long past its usefulness. I am heading down to Yongsan on Saturday to get a new gaming system. I want to spend between 600,000 and 800,000. I aslo don't need a monitor. What can I expect for that kind of money? I want to play the new Battlefield 3 when it comes out. Basically I want a ballpark list of specs I SHOULD be able to get for the above cash..
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any brand loyalty or preference? (amd vs intel, ati vs nvidia) AMD usually offers better bang for buck on budget/ mid-range cpus.

Are you interested in overclocking at all? (cpu/ gpu) This can definitely shift component preferences.

Anyways, in the 600k-800k range you should be getting a quad-core cpu, at least 4gigs of ram, 1tb hard drive, cd/dvd-rw optical, 600W+ power supply, and a solid, single last-gen video card.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One little warning, I've had a LOT of problems with poor computers here in Korea. The main parts are of course the same as in the west, but I've had some horrible cases here. I've had three computers, first one would fry because I got a static electricity shock from the ON button on the front (the case should protect the components from outside static electricity), the second computer would shut down if you touched the USB ports on the front, the third computer gives interference between the USB and the headphones if you use the front plugs, so I can literally hear the traffic on the USB. I have had probably more than 10 computers back home and never had any similar problems so score is 3/3 poor cases in Korea and 0/10 back home.

So my one advice would be to try to not get a poor quality case.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact jackdaniels on Dave's. Don't go to Yongsan. I got a great gaming rig through him and the price was fair and reasonable.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, you want me to give a guy called Jack Daniels a large sum of money for a computer? Well, I'm not saying I won't, but how about a legal warranty? UknowsI, do you know how I can avoid your problems? What is a "good" case?
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Hmmm, you want me to give a guy called Jack Daniels a large sum of money for a computer? Well, I'm not saying I won't, but how about a legal warranty? UknowsI, do you know how I can avoid your problems? What is a "good" case?


Mr. jackdaniels is a well-trusted, knowledgeable member of the tech forum. I agree that a custom build from a forum member will definitely net you a rig with all quality components, balanced for performance and budget constraints.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackdaniels is a sound choice if you want to avoid Yongsan (understandable).

But your budget is tight. You won't get a good gaming rig for 800,000.......just an okay one.

You could PM Jack and ask him what the procedure is if you have probs with a computer from him.
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shifter2009



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find a mid range rig today goes A LOT further than a mid range rig would 10 years ago.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifter2009 wrote:
I find a mid range rig today goes A LOT further than a mid range rig would 10 years ago.


Yes. Many games these days are just console ports to the PC which means they're designed for very old hardware and the only difference in the PC version is that they add a few new effects with higher resolution graphics.

My PC would be mid-range for a gaming rig (GTX 460, Sandybridge i5 2500k and 4GB Ripjaws DDR3) and I can run everything on maximum settings. There hasn't been a game in the past year that I couldn't run flawlessly on high settings.

I think for a decent box (as good as mine or a little better) you're going to need to spend a little bit more than 800k. Maybe 1.0m.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get 4gb of nice speedy gaming ddr3 ram, a sandy bridge class intel chip (or wait for ivy bridge which is coming out very soon) and spend the rest on a higher level gpu. not the top cards because the money to performance ratio is dismal, but one of the bargain priced heavyweights of the current generation of gpu's from either amd or nvidia.

the gpu and ram are going to be the most important factors to your rig. the cpu these days aren't an issue, at least with the phenomenal sandy bridge architecture from intel. in fact a low end i3 chip is more than fine for most modern games.

i would recommend almost the completely opposite setup for a general use pc however. whatever you do, build it yourself. i'm fairly positive a lot of the guys on this forum would come help you in trade for a few beers which is a paltry sum compared to what you would save pre-built.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, went to Yongsan today. Glad I did. I went to a few shops in the GIGA building. The last one I went to was the one that ttompatz recommended in an earlier post. The place is called "J-Tech". I was really impressed with the place and with the service.

For 830,000 they offered:

Processor: Intel i5 2500k
Mainboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Intel Z68
RAM: 8GB DDR3
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 560
HD: Samsung 1TB
Power Supply: 700W
Optical Drive: LG DVD/RW X24

However, what really caught my eye was a system they had that featured the i7 2600k processor. Roughly the same specs as above for 940,000. Hmmm.

The funniest thing was my neighbor said I should buy a Hewlett Packard from Lotte Mart. The i5-2500k system from them was 1,500,000! NOT.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
get 4gb of nice speedy gaming ddr3 ram, a sandy bridge class intel chip (or wait for ivy bridge which is coming out very soon) and spend the rest on a higher level gpu. not the top cards because the money to performance ratio is dismal, but one of the bargain priced heavyweights of the current generation of gpu's from either amd or nvidia.


Ivy bridge isn't coming out til next year. I'm waiting to build an Ivy Bridge/Nvidia Kepler build myself.

Here's a build I'd recommend the OP:
Core i5 2600k (Sandy)
4gb Ripjaws ram
Radeon 6950 (the 2gb of vram will be necessary for future games--and you can always add a 2nd one later in crossfire with super scalability)
SSD
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Grantasmagoria



Joined: 04 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The i5 2500k is better and cheaper for gaming. Not sure on the current prices for the i5/i7 in Korea but if the sole purpose is gaming, i5 is better.

Personally, I'd spend the extra money on an Nvidia gpu. AMD is always cheaper but their driver support is terrible.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get a computer in one day, you'll make a poor purchase.

I would recommend building your own, it's more interesting that way.
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Italy37612



Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely build your own, or get someone that knows what they are doing to build it for you. You will get a better bang for your buck. Picking and choosing components is especially important for a gaming rig, as it will only perform as well as the "weakest link" component.

I have built a couple of rigs for my friends in Korea. I saved them well over 300 bucks putting it together myself rather than buying pre-made.

Do some research online for performance and reliability of your internals.

tomshardware.com, tigerdirect.com, pcworld.com, or newegg.com are all great resources for buying and getting reviews on PC components.

I would really advise against getting anything from Yongsan pre-made. If you are good at negotiating and knowledgeable about PC's then you can get SOME parts from there.

Also, any manufacturer worth buying from will always provide at least a 6-month international warranty on their products.

Take your time, do LOTS of research. The last time I decided to build a laptop for myself I took about 3 months before hand searching out exactly what I wanted. I even waited 6-weeks for a CPU to become available before buying the other items. If you take your time and invest a decent amount of money in the PC it can last you for years and years.
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