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Skill
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 Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: School's asking me how many hours my Trinity CertTESOL is? |
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Hi all.
I have a Trinity CertTESOL certificate awarded by Trinity College London.
The course is 100+ hours, in class course. It is one of the two that is recognised by the British Council, here in the UK. The other being CELTA.
The thing is the school is telling me that it does not say on the Certificate that the course is 100+ hours.
They are correct, the certificate does not state the hours. I tried explaining to them that their is no Trinity CertTESOL course less then 100 hours and that the course being 100+ is part of the standard set by Trinity College London, which they are very stringent about.
The matter is Trinity College doesn't put the number of Hours on their Certificate. They never do because that is given.
This is the Trinity site: http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/site/?id=211
What should I do?
Has anyone experience such problems? |
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Setaro
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| It's ditto with CELTA. I just showed my school the CELTA website where it explicitly states it's 120 hours or whatever. |
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Skill
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Setaro wrote: |
| It's ditto with CELTA. I just showed my school the CELTA website where it explicitly states it's 120 hours or whatever. |
I told them that I can give the site adress and they can verify it, phone them if they want but they said they want it in writing.  |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Skill wrote: |
| Setaro wrote: |
| It's ditto with CELTA. I just showed my school the CELTA website where it explicitly states it's 120 hours or whatever. |
I told them that I can give the site adress and they can verify it, phone them if they want but they said they want it in writing. |
They wanted that with my TESOL. I just printed out the site where it gave the number of hours and handed it to them. |
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Skill
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am actually pulling my hair over this.  Why are they giving me such a hard time? |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Skill wrote: |
| I am actually pulling my hair over this. Why are they giving me such a hard time? |
Because if it's 100 hours or over...you are eligible for a pay raise.
Whereas if it is not...they don't have to pay you more.
So they want to make absolutely sure before handing over the cash...otherwise their superiors might get angry with them. They're playing CMA. |
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Skill
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I never asked for the bump in the pay nor I was looking for one. I am not planning to go there for the money. I just did the Trinity CertTESOL course for the experience, as opposed to going there without any kind of experience.
I am not afraid to say that the course was interesting although intensive, and I have no regrets.
I would recommend anyone to do it.
The question is ridiculous as asking whether your University Degree is minimum 3 years. |
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nathanrutledge
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Skill wrote: |
I never asked for the bump in the pay nor I was looking for one. I am not planning to go there for the money. I just did the Trinity CertTESOL course for the experience, as opposed to going there without any kind of experience.
I am not afraid to say that the course was interesting although intensive, and I have no regrets.
I would recommend anyone to do it.
The question is ridiculous as asking whether your University Degree is minimum 3 years. |
Word of advice. DON'T tell your employer you don't care about the money. EVER. They'll take that to heart.
Second, where I come from, it would be ridiculous to accept a degree that was anything less than four years. Don't assume that just because Trinity is a big deal where you come from that it is the same everywhere. Speaking about entry level work, CELTA and Trinity don't mean any more or any less than a 100 hour online class here in Korea. |
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drydell
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Skill wrote: |
I never asked for the bump in the pay nor I was looking for one. I am not planning to go there for the money. I just did the Trinity CertTESOL course for the experience, as opposed to going there without any kind of experience.
I am not afraid to say that the course was interesting although intensive, and I have no regrets.
I would recommend anyone to do it.
The question is ridiculous as asking whether your University Degree is minimum 3 years. |
Word of advice. DON'T tell your employer you don't care about the money. EVER. They'll take that to heart.
Second, where I come from, it would be ridiculous to accept a degree that was anything less than four years. Don't assume that just because Trinity is a big deal where you come from that it is the same everywhere. Speaking about entry level work, CELTA and Trinity don't mean any more or any less than a 100 hour online class here in Korea. |
US and Canada do four years. UK degrees are mostly 3 (maybe 4 in scotland?)because they specialize from the freshmen year. The length is somewhat irrelevant - as I'm sure you would recognise a 3 year Oxbridge degree is slightly more valuable than a 4 year degree from South Kansas Christian College of technology...
Korean employers sometimes get stumped by this.. just needs explaining slowly.. |
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nathanrutledge
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| drydell wrote: |
| nathanrutledge wrote: |
| Skill wrote: |
I never asked for the bump in the pay nor I was looking for one. I am not planning to go there for the money. I just did the Trinity CertTESOL course for the experience, as opposed to going there without any kind of experience.
I am not afraid to say that the course was interesting although intensive, and I have no regrets.
I would recommend anyone to do it.
The question is ridiculous as asking whether your University Degree is minimum 3 years. |
Word of advice. DON'T tell your employer you don't care about the money. EVER. They'll take that to heart.
Second, where I come from, it would be ridiculous to accept a degree that was anything less than four years. Don't assume that just because Trinity is a big deal where you come from that it is the same everywhere. Speaking about entry level work, CELTA and Trinity don't mean any more or any less than a 100 hour online class here in Korea. |
US and Canada do four years. UK degrees are mostly 3 (maybe 4 in scotland?)because they specialize from the freshmen year. The length is somewhat irrelevant - as I'm sure you would recognise a 3 year Oxbridge degree is slightly more valuable than a 4 year degree from South Kansas Christian College of technology...
Korean employers sometimes get stumped by this.. just needs explaining slowly.. |
You sonnova... slandering my alma mater, good old SKCCOT!?! 
That's exactly my point. The American system is four years, the British system offers many 3 years. At the same time, I have a friend with a masters, and she did it in 4 years - BA plus MA - in a UK school. The same program she did would have taken 6 years in the US. So getting upset with an employer because they want verification makes no sense. Trinity and CELTA are the exact same thing as an online program, and Harvard is the exact same thing as my beloved SKCCOT! |
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Skill
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is more due to a lack of awareness and that their are TESOL course out there that don't meet that requirement.
The difference between those other courses, without further going into the quality of course, and Trinity CertTESOL and CELTA is that they latter two are standardised and they go to great length to ensure it is so. They are also externally modulated.
I never been asked such a question before and was quite suprised.
If they have never heard of these two course than I can understand and wouldn't found it so strange.
Anyway I take it all as a learning curve.
I am not upset, I was rather baffled by it.
Thanks everyone for your contribution. |
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sing81
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: School's asking me how many hours my Trinity CertTESOL i |
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| Skill wrote: |
Hi all.
I have a Trinity CertTESOL certificate awarded by Trinity College London.
The course is 100+ hours, in class course. It is one of the two that is recognised by the British Council, here in the UK. The other being CELTA.
The thing is the school is telling me that it does not say on the Certificate that the course is 100+ hours.
They are correct, the certificate does not state the hours. I tried explaining to them that their is no Trinity CertTESOL course less then 100 hours and that the course being 100+ is part of the standard set by Trinity College London, which they are very stringent about.
The matter is Trinity College doesn't put the number of Hours on their Certificate. They never do because that is given.
This is the Trinity site: http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/site/?id=211
What should I do?
Has anyone experience such problems? |
I took the same course from the same school. It should be printed on one of your certificates. The school gives you two, one shortly after you finish and the other about a month or two later. It's posted on the first one. Mine says 133 hours. Yours should say something similar. Contact the school if you didn't get yours. Trinity is very professional and one of the best, and it's much stronger than any online certificate. That is why it's recognized by the British Council. |
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