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How long of a grace period does a newbie usually have?
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BackRow



Joined: 28 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: How long of a grace period does a newbie usually have? Reply with quote

Just started teaching at a hagwon, and trying to figure out where the kids are at in their textbooks and what is expected of me has been a real trial as I really haven't been told anything or given any real direction except be encouraged to give homework and journals constantly so parents think they're getting their money's worth.

I really think I'm doing terrible sofar, and although I plan to work hard during and after work hours to improve and get a grip on things I'm worried I may be in a "to little, too late, bye" situation, and be at the airport within a month.

So the question is, typically how long on average does a new hagwon teacher have to "coast" before management begins to really raise expectations? As a note, I've been teaching less than a week now.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1- You have been teaching less than a week

OK, take a deep breath and consider that: less than a week. Thats nothing so give yourself a break here and allow yourself time to catch your breath.

2- Ask your co-workers for advice.

They can help you out, teach you the ropes (you must be willing to learn however).

3- READ UP

Go online and find some ESL-TEFL resource sites that have acitivities, techniques and so on....and read up.

4- Look ahead and plan to a degree

That means pick up your curriculum, read through out and figure out whats ahead in terms of lessons and jot down a basic session plan. Then get some of those activities you found through your research (see point 3) and plug those in.

If this is your first contact with teaching it will be hard. Teaching (done properly) is not easy. For many its a very sharp learning curve and the biggest problem most newbies face is the lack of classroom management skills (ie how to plan a lesson and keep the students interested and under control).

Good luck.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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typically how long on average does a new hagwon teacher have to "coast" before management begins to really raise expectations?


You are not in high school anymore.

If you think like that, you will surely be taken advantage of. If you are new, you need one year to observe classes, see resources available, and copy/deliver existing lessons. During your second year, you adjust these lessons to fit the school you are teaching at. Some will be based on a chalkboard or whiteboard with markers. Others will prefer you speaking over writing. Then, after two years of teaching or a bit earlier, you will be faced with this problem you bring up.

By then, you will have a base of knowledge and be able to decide the direction you want to go, not the direction the school wants you to go. If what you are teaching is not what the school wants, then there isn't a match and you need to find a school which will allow you to teach what you want.

Look up activities, games, and drills.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hogwon management can be unpredictable. They might never really care what's going on in your classroom as long as too many students aren't dropping out, they might already be planning to fire you. It's hard to tell. If you have any foreign co-workers, ask them.

As far as the kids go, however, your grace period is the first day. That's when you set expectations for what you will and will not tolerate in the classroom. They'll start testing your boundaries right away. You say you think you're doing "terrible" in the class, so I have a feeling that's already started. Since no one sat you down and told you what the school expected, this isn't entirely your fault. Even a veteran teacher can have problems running a class when the school's own expectations aren't clear.

Patrick's advice is good. Read up. There's a lot of great activity and classroom management ideas out there on the net. I also recommend The First Days of School by Harry Wong, a really good book about classroom management. It's geared towards elementary school teachers in the states, but there's a lot that's helpful for hogwon teachers as well.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
I also recommend The First Days of School by Harry Wong, a really good book about classroom management. It's geared towards elementary school teachers in the states, but there's a lot that's helpful for hogwon teachers as well.


Anyone that wants to buy this book from me, I'm selling it for 10,000 won. I agree: it's a good read and I learned a lot from it.
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Zackback



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long?
They want good results from the get-go.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
How long?
They want good results from the get-go.


+1

Any misstep on your part can result in immediate dismissal. Perhaps "any" is misleading, but you never know what they are thinking.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaHu wrote:
Zackback wrote:
How long?
They want good results from the get-go.


+1

Any misstep on your part can result in immediate dismissal. Perhaps "any" is misleading, but you never know what they are thinking.


Yeah, I know a guy who got 30 days notice after teaching for less than a week.
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cincynate



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave some writing on the white board for the director to see. Give the kids some candy. Give them lots of homework. They will like you for the candy, the parents will like you for the home work, the boss will love you. Easy as pie!
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cincynate wrote:
Leave some writing on the white board for the director to see. Give the kids some candy. Give them lots of homework. They will like you for the candy, the parents will like you for the home work, the boss will love you. Easy as pie!


Or do some research, improve your teaching skills and learn something out of the deal instead of becoming yet another bingo playing, candy giving stiff who just occupies space in the classroom instead of teaching.

To each his own.
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schwa



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to be there was a pronounced honeymoon for floundering newbs but as kids & bosses grow more accustomed to a steady succession of foreign teachers there might be less patience nowadays.

But the perception of some genuine effort will still outweigh a few initial missteps.
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cincynate



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or do some research, improve your teaching skills and learn something out of the deal instead of becoming yet another bingo playing, candy giving stiff who just occupies space in the classroom instead of teaching.


True, but this takes time. And I agree that teaching in Korea is a great time to improve yourself both as a teacher and in other mind enriching areas. However, the OP is a NEWBIE and wants to know what to do during his 'grace period' from when he began teaching until he discovers the teacher inside all of us. I wasn't provocating the funny clown who speaks those funny words and gives us candy route.. It was just to satisfy the won jang nim until he finds his method.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still with just a weekend of study the OP could come up with genuine ways to improve which would show up anyway...

No worries.
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harshlands101



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has to be said...

OP, you took a new job doing something you have never done before and clearly haven't even taken the slightest interest in prior to landing in Korea otherwise you would have at least read a post it notes worth of research on the teaching.

Koreans complain, the press complain, all people on daves complain. About what? Crabby english teachers with naff all idea of what they are doing and here you all are giving some nice advice when really what you should be saying is bugger off home because OP; you are atypical of the dross that has accumulated in this little country and help make us all look dumb.

ps. hope you like spicy food
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BackRow



Joined: 28 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harshlands101 wrote:
It has to be said...

OP, you took a new job doing something you have never done before and clearly haven't even taken the slightest interest in prior to landing in Korea otherwise you would have at least read a post it notes worth of research on the teaching.

Koreans complain, the press complain, all people on daves complain. About what? Crabby english teachers with naff all idea of what they are doing and here you all are giving some nice advice when really what you should be saying is bugger off home because OP; you are atypical of the dross that has accumulated in this little country and help make us all look dumb.

ps. hope you like spicy food


Harsh but true to a degree, however I did not force anyone to hire me, the requirements just happen to be incredibly low. Railing on one side of the matter and not the other is a bit excessive. Even though it opens me up to posts like yours, I'm fine with it, I could use all the help I can get and have gotten great advice from using this site as a resource.

If I truly was the worst of the worst I'd just sit on my hands and ride out the job as long as I could doing minimal work, but I am making an effort and will continue to do so for as long as I'm here. So in the end I just hope you have a nice day on top of your high horse.
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