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South Korea: Kids, Stop Studying So Hard!
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mellinger



Joined: 21 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: South Korea: Kids, Stop Studying So Hard! Reply with quote

Found this article from Time Magazine which is running this week. It's an interesting read and a good look into the culture of studying here in Korea.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2094427,00.html?xid=fblike
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I don't care when people rip on the quality of the NET's here. For 6 years of their lives (middle school and high school) the higher ups of the educational establishment allow/encourage this kind of defunct system that obliterates the teenage years of the entire nation.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've asked this question before and haven't received an answer...

Why don't parents get angry/upset/demand reform if they feel the public schools are of poor quality? Why give someone else their hard earned money when their children must go to school during the day, at the expense of the taxpayer? Why are hagwons (which are in theory supplementary) seen as superior to the education received in ALL public schools?
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because their whole concept of education is so F$$#$%ed up!
The went through it and can't figure out how awful it is.
The system "taught" them well. Indeed, very well.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the parents didn't go to hogwons. Hogwons probably became more popular in the past 20 years.

I believe they send them to hogwons because they don't know what to do with them when they leave school at 2 or 3pm. There aren't babysitters, and parents are working.

In Canada many 16 year olds have PT jobs, but here they can't. They don't really have anywhere to go.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highschool kids here can get a job. It's just that its frowned upon because they should be studying instead. I personally getting a job at that age is a better lesson for them instead of wasting their life away and depending on their parents until they graduate college.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Highschool kids here can get a job. .



This. Three of my high school girls work at the local Jin-Mart and bakery in my town. Makes it a bit awkward when you realize you've run out of bread and need to make a quick trip to the store before it closes. So you throw on a T-shirt and shorts and hurry down to the bakery...only to meet one of your students...who's only ever seen you in a suit and tie until now.

And it becomes gossip item number one at the school the next day.
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calendar



Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article was terrible, misleading and written badly. I see nothing wrong with the Korean educational system but those that do, seek pleasure over hard work anyways so their comments mean little.

They are not being 'robbed' of those 'teen years', they are studying and working hard to be successful later in life. Those that don't usually inherit the farm or orchard or go to work in other fields. The system is fine and doesn't need interference by westerners.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calendar wrote:

They are not being 'robbed' of those 'teen years', they are studying and working hard to be successful later in life. Those that don't usually inherit the farm or orchard or go to work in other fields. The system is fine and doesn't need interference by westerners.


Or the child commits suicide because of low test scores.

Its always sunny in Seoul isn't it, calendar?
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zeppelin



Joined: 08 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calendar wrote:
The article was terrible, misleading and written badly. I see nothing wrong with the Korean educational system but those that do, seek pleasure over hard work anyways so their comments mean little.

They are not being 'robbed' of those 'teen years', they are studying and working hard to be successful later in life. Those that don't usually inherit the farm or orchard or go to work in other fields. The system is fine and doesn't need interference by westerners.


Even the majority of Korean people agree that the education system needs to be reformed. Every kid competing for a place at one of 3 Universities is a recipe for disaster.

A lot of the people I speak to involved in education agree that the public school education system needs to improve.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does calendar always defend the Korean way no matter what?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
fermentation wrote:
Highschool kids here can get a job. .



This. Three of my high school girls work at the local Jin-Mart and bakery in my town. Makes it a bit awkward when you realize you've run out of bread and need to make a quick trip to the store before it closes. So you throw on a T-shirt and shorts and hurry down to the bakery...only to meet one of your students...who's only ever seen you in a suit and tie until now.

And it becomes gossip item number one at the school the next day.


Heheh, I like that story.

Same thing happened to me except I was with a woman, only got spotted that one time the whole year. Hottest topic at the school the next day.
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zeppelin



Joined: 08 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
Does calendar always defend the Korean way no matter what?


I'm not sure what Calendar's deal is but he really doesn't use English in a way that would indicate an educated native speaker.

Perhaps he's a troll, perhaps he isn't a native speaker, perhaps he isn't educated.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kids here know nothing else, and then when they become 20 y/o's before marriage whenever that is, they still dont know what to do with their time, so they study, but even if they did have a idea of what to do, the market here for entertainment is very lacking, because everyone s studying or running a rat race, its a cycle. i doubt if there will be anything else..
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calendar wrote:
The article was terrible, misleading and written badly. I see nothing wrong with the Korean educational system but those that do, seek pleasure over hard work anyways so their comments mean little.

They are not being 'robbed' of those 'teen years', they are studying and working hard to be successful later in life. Those that don't usually inherit the farm or orchard or go to work in other fields. The system is fine and doesn't need interference by westerners.


No it's not. As a person who did go through the system, I can tell you it's a horrible system that those rob kids of their lives.
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