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cobradiner



Joined: 14 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Second trip to Korea Reply with quote

So after finding myself at a hagwon at the verge of bankruptcy for my first year and quitting during the 4th month, I seek to press my luck again to get Korea-living another year. I just got my CBC in the mail last week, so I'm looking to get the process started again very soon.

When I talk to recruiters, schools, and to the embassy, to who do I deny my experience of my first year school? Obviously, recruiters and schools do not want a teacher whose last boss has nothing but mean and hurtful things to list about him despite the large majority of the failing school being her fault. I don't know if they can do a quick background check of me and find out about my first E-2 visa trip. I would think the embassy definitely could prior to the interview. What do I say if confronted about the issue?

tl;dr: How do I approach my nightmare first year experience when applying to my second job here in Korea?
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the embassy goes, you do not need a second interview, so that is a moot point.

If you can, I would find someone at the old school who will vouch for you, a co-teacher or some such would do the trick. You want to be able to have the school call someone so that you can use the experience to your benefit.
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cobradiner



Joined: 14 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, the second interview is not required? Who issues the new E-2 Visa then???

It's been six months since I left, so I've all but lost contact with one of the foriegn teachers who would possibly vouch for me. Is it that important to get someone? Meaning I have no choice but to mention my year that I didn't complete?
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only for first timers to Korea. If you go and come back, you can even do a visa run to another country while on a tourist visa. So, think of that as an option as well.

That would add an enormous amount of accounting if they had to interview teachers every time they re-applied, and the people in Korea would have to fly to their home country or another place (was it Guam? Hong Kong? I don't remember exactly) to get a second school.
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cobradiner



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alrighty that helps, but how do I go approach my first year? Do I lie and say this is my first year in Korea, or do I try to explain my first year to employers?

If prompted to explain, I'm not sure how to do so in a professional manner. In reality, she drove me batshit insane because it was the first week of the new school year (her school was on the verge of collapse). Our school transformed from a kindergarten to a play school, and I was not ready at all to teach 3 year olds. I have plenty of experience with student ages ranging from 6-14 but none with 3 year olds. I didn't have the slightest clue how to teach them, so I ran into a load of problems trying to control them or even getting them to sit down for more than 5 minutes. I survived only SEVEN days of this new year before I had a mental breakdown in front of my students after my boss chewed me out for not being able to manage the class on my own. I was given textbooks to teach them, and each time I brought them out the kids would make a run for it outside the classroom. I've been yelled at for students ripping worksheets behind my back while I'm helping others because all work HAS to be neat and presentable to parents. I wasn't allowed to create any new games to help teach the kids since the workbooks were priority #1. It got so bad at one point one day I was just filling in answers while I explained them.

Just thinking about it opens wounds I closed when I left Korea, but hopefully middle school will be much better.
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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have plenty of experience with student ages ranging from 6-14 but none with 3 year olds.


Ok, then ONLY apply to the 1st graders and up. I am from 3rd grade and up. So, tell them that the job was not suited for your "talents", hardy har har har. Something to that effect.

Let them know you had a "cultural" experience (another hardy har har har) from your first experience and that you want to work with students that are better fit for your expertise.
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Skill



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cobradiner wrote:
alrighty that helps, but how do I go approach my first year? Do I lie and say this is my first year in Korea, or do I try to explain my first year to employers?

If prompted to explain, I'm not sure how to do so in a professional manner. In reality, she drove me batshit insane because it was the first week of the new school year (her school was on the verge of collapse). Our school transformed from a kindergarten to a play school, and I was not ready at all to teach 3 year olds. I have plenty of experience with student ages ranging from 6-14 but none with 3 year olds. I didn't have the slightest clue how to teach them, so I ran into a load of problems trying to control them or even getting them to sit down for more than 5 minutes. I survived only SEVEN days of this new year before I had a mental breakdown in front of my students after my boss chewed me out for not being able to manage the class on my own. I was given textbooks to teach them, and each time I brought them out the kids would make a run for it outside the classroom. I've been yelled at for students ripping worksheets behind my back while I'm helping others because all work HAS to be neat and presentable to parents. I wasn't allowed to create any new games to help teach the kids since the workbooks were priority #1. It got so bad at one point one day I was just filling in answers while I explained them.

Just thinking about it opens wounds I closed when I left Korea, but hopefully middle school will be much better.


Seriously they gave 3 year old's work books? And top of that they expect them to do work and not rip it up?

You don't teach them, you suppose to manage them for the most part. Read to them and let them play with toys.
Laughing
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cobradiner



Joined: 14 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skill wrote:
cobradiner wrote:
alrighty that helps, but how do I go approach my first year? Do I lie and say this is my first year in Korea, or do I try to explain my first year to employers?

If prompted to explain, I'm not sure how to do so in a professional manner. In reality, she drove me batshit insane because it was the first week of the new school year (her school was on the verge of collapse). Our school transformed from a kindergarten to a play school, and I was not ready at all to teach 3 year olds. I have plenty of experience with student ages ranging from 6-14 but none with 3 year olds. I didn't have the slightest clue how to teach them, so I ran into a load of problems trying to control them or even getting them to sit down for more than 5 minutes. I survived only SEVEN days of this new year before I had a mental breakdown in front of my students after my boss chewed me out for not being able to manage the class on my own. I was given textbooks to teach them, and each time I brought them out the kids would make a run for it outside the classroom. I've been yelled at for students ripping worksheets behind my back while I'm helping others because all work HAS to be neat and presentable to parents. I wasn't allowed to create any new games to help teach the kids since the workbooks were priority #1. It got so bad at one point one day I was just filling in answers while I explained them.

Just thinking about it opens wounds I closed when I left Korea, but hopefully middle school will be much better.


Seriously they gave 3 year old's work books? And top of that they expect them to do work and not rip it up?

You don't teach them, you suppose to manage them for the most part. Read to them and let them play with toys.
Laughing


I wish I was joking, but that how helpless I was in that situation. Who am I to challenge my boss's authority, for she best knows how to continually please parents and not teach their kids English.
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