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letflyJ
Joined: 29 Oct 2011
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject: my options for teaching in Korea |
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I'm re-posting this thread here because I am assuming that I incorrectly placed it the first time I posted it and that's why it was deleted.
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Hello all,
I was formerly in the military for six years but I do not have a college degree yet. I am going to post this thread here and then in a couple of other country specific forums here and I'll list why below.
About my work experience. My job in the Navy was a Korean interpreter. I graduated from language school in California and while I was there I taught Korean reading and writing for one year to Korean-American children at my church there. (한글 학교) For those of you with a bit of familiarity with the Korean community abroad, I'm sure you know about 한글 학교 that goes on every Saturday for a couple of hours at Korean churches. I also lived in Korea for one year when I was stationed there. As an interpreter, I worked on a Korean military base with nothing but Koreans during my entire year in Korea.
So, that's my work experience in regards to Korea/Korean. I am pretty comfortable in Korean. I can read, write, speak, and understand it. I'm not native level but I am pretty good though in speaking and understanding. As an interpreter, I don't write it much so I'm not so advanced there but I do read it often.
Before I ask you all experienced teachers about my options, I will let you know that I am also interested in teaching in Japan, Thailand, China, Philippines, and South America especially Brazil in general. Out of the countries above that I listed, the only language that I am not comfortable in is Thai. For the others, I speak (in order of fluency) Japanese/Tagalog/Spanish (same level), Portuguese, and Chinese. Just so you know.
I am thinking about teaching English in Korea and since you all now know my background, I am wondering what advice you can give me about teaching in Korea (and the other countries listed) in regards to my specific situation. You do not have to inform me at all about Korean culture aside from teaching in Korea. I am very intimate with Seoul and Korean culture in general.
So, your detailed thoughts? Thank you!! |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: my options for teaching in Korea |
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letflyJ wrote: |
I'm re-posting this thread here because I am assuming that I incorrectly placed it the first time I posted it and that's why it was deleted.
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Hello all,
I was formerly in the military for six years but I do not have a college degree yet. I am going to post this thread here and then in a couple of other country specific forums here and I'll list why below.
About my work experience. My job in the Navy was a Korean interpreter. I graduated from language school in California and while I was there I taught Korean reading and writing for one year to Korean-American children at my church there. (한글 학교) For those of you with a bit of familiarity with the Korean community abroad, I'm sure you know about 한글 학교 that goes on every Saturday for a couple of hours at Korean churches. I also lived in Korea for one year when I was stationed there. As an interpreter, I worked on a Korean military base with nothing but Koreans during my entire year in Korea.
So, that's my work experience in regards to Korea/Korean. I am pretty comfortable in Korean. I can read, write, speak, and understand it. I'm not native level but I am pretty good though in speaking and understanding. As an interpreter, I don't write it much so I'm not so advanced there but I do read it often.
Before I ask you all experienced teachers about my options, I will let you know that I am also interested in teaching in Japan, Thailand, China, Philippines, and South America especially Brazil in general. Out of the countries above that I listed, the only language that I am not comfortable in is Thai. For the others, I speak (in order of fluency) Japanese/Tagalog/Spanish (same level), Portuguese, and Chinese. Just so you know.
I am thinking about teaching English in Korea and since you all now know my background, I am wondering what advice you can give me about teaching in Korea (and the other countries listed) in regards to my specific situation. You do not have to inform me at all about Korean culture aside from teaching in Korea. I am very intimate with Seoul and Korean culture in general.
So, your detailed thoughts? Thank you!! |
yes, I'm interested in teaching in Brazil too
who wouldn't be. But the pay is peanuts and Brazil is expensive (very expensive) these days. Ditto for peanut pay everywhere else in South America, or else I'd be there right now instead of being in Korea.
Your major issue with most of the places you mention and most places around the globe is the lack of a college degree. It tends to be the requirement by most govts to issue someone a visa that enables them to work in their country as an English teacher. You may be able to work on the side in some places.. but the pay won't be as good and you're taking a risk.
get your degree.
and good luck. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Your original post was probably deleted because of you discussing illegal private tutoring. Korea is out until you get a degree or start working towards a degree (TALK). From my, somewhat limited understanding, it's becoming more and more the norm as a basic requirement to have a degree to get a job in a lot of countries now. Get the degree or you'll never get to work in Korea legally as a teacher. If you choose to ignore that advice then please enjoy being removed from the country whilst simultaneously having your wallet emptied. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: Re: my options for teaching in Korea |
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letflyJ wrote: |
I am pretty comfortable in Korean. I can read, write, speak, and understand it. I'm not native level but I am pretty good though in speaking and understanding. As an interpreter, I don't write it much so I'm not so advanced there but I do read it often.
Before I ask you all experienced teachers about my options, I will let you know that I am also interested in teaching in Japan, Thailand, China, Philippines, and South America especially Brazil in general. Out of the countries above that I listed, the only language that I am not comfortable in is Thai. For the others, I speak (in order of fluency) Japanese/Tagalog/Spanish (same level), Portuguese, and Chinese. Just so you know. |
You can speak seven languages comfortably?! That is impressive. How did you get so good at languages? Do you have any tips for those of use trying to learn another language? I have been studying Korean for a long time, but am still at a low level. |
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rainism
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:57 am Post subject: Re: my options for teaching in Korea |
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World Traveler wrote: |
letflyJ wrote: |
I am pretty comfortable in Korean. I can read, write, speak, and understand it. I'm not native level but I am pretty good though in speaking and understanding. As an interpreter, I don't write it much so I'm not so advanced there but I do read it often.
Before I ask you all experienced teachers about my options, I will let you know that I am also interested in teaching in Japan, Thailand, China, Philippines, and South America especially Brazil in general. Out of the countries above that I listed, the only language that I am not comfortable in is Thai. For the others, I speak (in order of fluency) Japanese/Tagalog/Spanish (same level), Portuguese, and Chinese. Just so you know. |
You can speak seven languages comfortably?! That is impressive. How did you get so good at languages? Do you have any tips for those of use trying to learn another language? I have been studying Korean for a long time, but am still at a low level. |
that's very impressive if true, but I'm very skeptical he has any measure of real fluency in all of them.
he may have fluency in say 2... the third is intermediate level at best, and the others are beginner/survival level.
remember, it was said George W Bush spoke Spanish.
(it's actually debatable whether the man spoke English, at least properly)
in his memoirs Vicente Fox put George's Spanish level at pre kindergarten. (this was readily apparent to anyone who actually knew Spanish and heard him talk) |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Are you gyopo or an adoptee? |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Don't come back. You have lived here already and clearly have an extensive and extended (from childhood, I suppose) background of things Korean. So, you have been there and done that.
Go somewhere you haven't been for similar, but new opportunities. No offense, but the most interesting aspect of your post for me was your even asking the question. I am also thinking that your parents are fairly rigid about maintaining certain aspects of Korean culture? And if so, there may be external influences also at work. My suggestion assumes that you are completely free to make your own mind, but if that is not the case, then still go somewhere new.
If you were to come, things would be bittersweet for you, depending on the employment avenues you pursue. There are F4 (assuming you qualify)visa advantages and disadvantages as well. Recently there have been a couple (one?) case of an American-Korean returning after a murder charge was leveled against him; you may face some issues (though I don't suspect this will come to pass). As you said, you have already been here, so maybe you are well aware of all of this.
Good luck wherever you end up. |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Until u can actually obtain a degree you basically mean nothing to employers here because its illegal, plain and simple. Like someone else said get your degree first then shoot for teaching. Honestly even if you taught at a korean american church (which i did as well) the degree is what matters most. And lets be real about the languages as well. What you believe as fluent or skillful and REAL world ability are 2 different things. Unless you grew up in each of those places, there are slang words/terms and other things you dont know. |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Basically, it would depend on what you want to get out of the experience... |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Should probably clarify if you are after making some money, or having a good time, or a bit of both... |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Since you know Korea, figure the others.. China is good... living costs are low... pay is low too... and fun stuff, would depend on where you are... |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:24 am Post subject: |
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You probably do not want to head to Thailand just now... though north country is pretty good. Pay is better than China,... night life is good... |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Fair bit of foreigners in Thailand as well... partying.. having a working holiday.. |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Philippines is not bad as well... the pay is okay... if you can find the work.. Many speak English well.... |
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louisfx
Joined: 28 Oct 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Japan is probably the most like Korea--but you'd not make enough to send home... Living costs are rather on the high side... |
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