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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Need advice on dealing with a bullying problem in class. Reply with quote

Hey everyone was looking for some outside advice on how I might be able to handle a case of bullying that's recently begun in one of my classes.

Some background information, its a private school and the class is made up of 14 5th and 6th graders. The class is split up almost evenly between males and females and about two weeks ago I noticed a few of the boy students complaining and saying some things about a female student in class. At first I didn't think much of it, at that age a lot of the kids dislike the opposite sex but it's starting to become more apparent. The boys quietly call her names in class and now the girls (who have always been very well behaved) have completed ostracized her.

The student being picked on has never said a word to me about it but I know bullying when I see it and have begun giving detentions to the students who are openly picking on this girl in class. I discussed it with my co-teacher earlier in the week and she spoke with the student getting bullied, trying to figure out what is happening.

From what my co-teacher told me the student isn't sure why she is getting picked on but its become worse with the girls and boys poking fun at her on the bus ride home and back, the girl says while she really likes my co-teacher and I that she may have to transfer classes because she can't handle getting picked on anymore.

Now I know there is nothing I can do about what is happening on the bus or what is happening in between classes but I don't allow that kind of behavior in my class. Giving these students detention and speaking to them during class has had no effect and I'm worried if I push it too far it will open the student up to more abuse from her classmates.

Sorry for the length of the message but its really bothering me because this girl is a very good student and I've watched her become more dejected and withdrawn class by class these past 2 weeks.

Thanks for your help.
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ajosshi



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Need advice on dealing with a bullying problem in class. Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
Hey everyone was looking for some outside advice on how I might be able to handle a case of bullying that's recently begun in one of my classes.

Some background information, its a private school and the class is made up of 14 5th and 6th graders. The class is split up almost evenly between males and females and about two weeks ago I noticed a few of the boy students complaining and saying some things about a female student in class. At first I didn't think much of it, at that age a lot of the kids dislike the opposite sex but it's starting to become more apparent. The boys quietly call her names in class and now the girls (who have always been very well behaved) have completed ostracized her.

The student being picked on has never said a word to me about it but I know bullying when I see it and have begun giving detentions to the students who are openly picking on this girl in class. I discussed it with my co-teacher earlier in the week and she spoke with the student getting bullied, trying to figure out what is happening.

From what my co-teacher told me the student isn't sure why she is getting picked on but its become worse with the girls and boys poking fun at her on the bus ride home and back, the girl says while she really likes my co-teacher and I that she may have to transfer classes because she can't handle getting picked on anymore.

Now I know there is nothing I can do about what is happening on the bus or what is happening in between classes but I don't allow that kind of behavior in my class. Giving these students detention and speaking to them during class has had no effect and I'm worried if I push it too far it will open the student up to more abuse from her classmates.

Sorry for the length of the message but its really bothering me because this girl is a very good student and I've watched her become more dejected and withdrawn class by class these past 2 weeks.

Thanks for your help.


call their parents and "ask" them how this should be handled. let them know that bullies do poorly later in life, so you want to do the best that you can for their child.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Need advice on dealing with a bullying problem in class. Reply with quote

Be careful.

Kids can be cruel among themselves & adults cant referee all their interactions. If the girl is generally self-capable, she probably needs to sort this out on her own. Crap tends to happen for a reason. Maybe she needs to figure out what she's doing to turn her peers against her & either adapt or live with it. Its part of growing up.

Hokie21 wrote:
Giving these students detention and speaking to them during class has had no effect and I'm worried if I push it too far it will open the student up to more abuse from her classmates.

This worry is well-founded -- your interference could well create more backlash. Be normally kind to her but keep your distance from the kids' internal politics. She'll be stronger for it in the long run. Two weeks is nothing, dont assume its a major crisis.

If she does decide she needs to switch classes, so be it.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe she needs to figure out what she's doing to turn her peers against her & either adapt or live with it. Its part of growing up.


Maybe she isn't joining any of the cliques. Nothing wrong with that. It seems like the class is too focused on group activities, and there should be more individual based lessons. This way people are more focused on their task instead of ganging up.

After you get results from an individual based lesson, you match people based on their performance. If a couple students do really well you highlight what they did. Either show on the board as a WHOLE group what they did. In this example, if the one being bullied is smart then she is praised alongside someone else. There, you have broken the clique barrier and found something common.

If she isn't that smart and needs help, you pair up students, one good with one bad. YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS. Don't give the students the control to break up into cliques and choose their teammates.

I think the teacher in this case is giving too much freedom to the class and not controlling the situation.
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Hokie21



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said before this is a private academy and the majority of the students in this class attend a regular school together. They already have their cliques from their normal school, that is outside my control. We don't spend very much time at all doing group activities, I would say no more than 10-15 minutes out of a 70 minute class is group work.

Also I said its mostly muted in my class aside from a few comments from the boys and the girls ostracizing her. The majority of it happens during the school rides over and the break between my class and when my co-teacher has the class.

I understand a lot of it is outside of my control (their regular school, bus rides, korean co-teachers class). Also I understand these kids are elementary students and this kind of thing comes with the territory but what concerns me is how she has completely shut down in class now and is obviously miserable. At the beginning of the semester she was a very active and very happy kid.
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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now it sounds like you are distancing yourself from what you stated before. I highly doubt you know exactly what the kids do on buses and elsewhere unless you are actually there.

If now it is her somehow changed in some way, you aren't her parent. Tell the school and move on. Before you made it look like there were problems in the classroom. Now you are making it sound like it is more of a personal problem.
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Hokie21



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what they do on the bus because I mentioned the bullying situation to my Korean Co-teacher. She approached me Friday saying she spoke to the student and the students mother and that was the story they gave her.

Why are you such a dick?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't invest too much in this issue. Not much you can do outside of your class unless you're on the bus with them. Just keep it under control in your class. And it's a hagwon, the mother will pull her out of the place if it gets too bad.
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Jingo besus



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Need advice on dealing with a bullying problem in class. Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Crap tends to happen for a reason. Maybe she needs to figure out what she's doing to turn her peers against her & either adapt or live with it. Its part of growing up.


I'm guessing you were one of the bullies in your school then?
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was bullied growing up and a lot of people have been. It wasn't fun, but it wasn't consistent either. There were places where I did feel safe and accepted. Now, I can't say that I grew up to be a completely healthy adult, but I didn't kill myself as a teen. So, if you can at least make her feel safe in your class, you may be doing a lot.
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Now, as far as the bullies were concerned, they might not fare so well. I