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[Ya-ta Boy]

Libya�s Sexual Revolution: How the uprising turned young Libyan men from hopeless layabouts into marriageable heroes.

"Girls around the area come up to you and say, �Thank you! You made us proud, you made us happy,'" Faqiar told me one night recently. He spoke on the sidelines of a camel and couscous feast that the people in this Tripoli suburb threw for several thousand young rebels, after slaughtering 10 camels.

From a specially raised dais, speakers praised the young rebel fighters late into the evening. Hundreds of excited young women and girls in head scarves mingled near rifle-toting young men, a novelty in this conservative country that was overwhelming to members of both genders in the crowd that night. "It's like a wedding!" Faqiar exclaimed, shaking his head in surprise.

Relations between Libyan men and women -- deeply distorted by the eccentric Libyan leader's refusal to provide normal opportunities for Libya's young people -- have changed "100 percent" in the days since Qaddafi fell, the young rebel said. His comrades listening around him voiced agreement.

"Thank God," Faqiar added.

Nearby, young women -- a group of cousins and neighbors, clustered together, in long skirts and shirts and head coverings -- said the same, and laughed about taking their pick of a husband from among the rebels when the war was done.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/26/libya_sexual_revolution

Articles like this tell me that while Libya may not turn into Babylon on the Mediterranean, it won't adopt a government as repressive as what they just destroyed.

[Butterfly]

[Ineverlie&I'malwaysri]

The Al-Qaeda Flag Is Now Flying High And Proud Over Libya (as Ron Paul predicted)

It's the one which contains the phrase �there is no God but Allah� with a full moon underneath.

Happy now?

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Ineverlie&I'malwaysri]

[ZIFA]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[ersatzredux]

Of course most of these so called "revolutionaries" are scum- or at least act like it- they are stupid greedy and horny young men- the type of people that do the dirty work of imperialism are generally precisely those sorts - and there is never a shortage in any country. Imagine how many Americans right now would gladly take up arms and rape and pillage their fellow countrymen if they were assured that no retribution was to come - because they were guaranteed immunity for their crimes from vastly powerful outside forces. Hell, all it takes is a major power outage or natural disaster to make that kind of thing happen right now.

But of course it is simplistic to think they were all like that. Some were likely naive dupes enraptured with the West of their imaginations- dumb enough to believe our propaganda about being the good guys and all that. And likely a few truly principled types, who are already no doubt regretting what they have done. And many would be those whose families, cousins, or whatnot had been personally harmed by the state- politics is pretty ruthless and seems to have always been a blood sport in those parts.

Remember that just as Gaddafi did though that we are also rising up a host of people with grudges with every Libyan our bombs, special forces, or minions have killed. An insurgency is guaranteed. You'll be surprised how quickly the joy Big Bird alluded to earlier that her elite friends are expressing that that uncouth and embarrassing bumpkin Gaddafi is gone- turns to either fear or regret. Now they are happy- All that crap about pan-Africanism, treating blacks like human beings, and especially all those resources wasted on the lower castes with their ridiculous "revolutionary committees" and so on will be out the window. Now they can have their own fun! Finally a decent nightclub! Now the country will be with its rightful owners again and the poor and bumpkins can go stuff it. But it won't be like that at all, at least not for very long. Part of the elite have already thrown their lot in with the imperialists, and the other will soon enough join the insurgency, once they realize that their "friends" are really here to stay.

Having elements of the frustrated elite welcoming in an expansionist foreign power to deal with their local enemies is a story as old as empire itself- and it very seldom ends well for them. Read Thucycides on the civil wars if you want to understand what has basically happened and what you can expect to see next. This is not the first empire in history to use "democracy" as its pretext to expand, and likely won't be the last. It's a veneer that is seen through pretty quickly, as well by the Melians as it will be soon enough for Libyans.

The problem that you and Kuros et al have in understanding what is going on and what will happen next is that you have made the same mistake the dog did with the scorpion. You know the story - the scorpion asks the dog to take him across the river. The dog says, "I can't do that - you will sting me and I will die" The scorpion replies, "But then I would drown too- why on earth would I do that?" So the dog agrees and half way across the river the scorpion stings the dog. "Why did you that, the dog cries, now we'll both drown!". Sorry, says the scorpion, I couldn't help it I guess - it's just in my nature.

And what is your nature? You are citizens of an expansionist and increasingly desperate military empire that seeks to control the world for the benefit of its elites and will let nothing stand in the way. Your empire intends to keep China and any other competitors down by securing military control of key resources, especially oil, in order to maintain that dominance. And because this is a project that very few people of any quality will support, the elites and quislings of empire are of such narrow vision and greedy hands that the chance of pragmatic altruism is nil. It will be just the same as Iraq because the empire hasn't changed since Iraq. The Libyans are now trying to cross the river with a scorpion on their back. Good luck!

[ZIFA]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Ineverlie&I'malwaysri]

^ You call the highest standard of living in Africa "not working"?

But let's give that to you for the sake of argument. Outsiders still have no right to bring their aggression into the country.

[leicsmac]

[Butterfly]

[TheUrbanMyth]