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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| I like Korea more since I started pretending I don't live here. |
Where do you pretend you're living, then? Just curious. |
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Plume D'ella Plumeria
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: The Lost Horizon
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:40 am Post subject: |
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A question for Patrick. You say you are not a recruiter. I'll take your word for it. But I would be quite interested in knowing exactly what your consulting business does. WHAT do you consult? WHO do you consult? HOW do you consult? WHY do you consult?
Exactly what does this consist of, Patrick? I doubt that I'm the only one wondering. How about shedding a little light on your consulting business? It just seems a bit murky to me and elucidation would be appreciated. |
First of all, there is no way I will provide details to extent which you seem to demand on what I do professionally on an online discussion board.
In broad terms however, my consulting agency operates in the field of cross-cutlural / Inter-cultural training and development.
As such typically my client base is made up of various companies that have identified a need to training their employees prior to sending them abroad. We focus on Asia to North America (so Asian companies, mostly Korean and Japanese but looking into China recently) and on North Am to Asia (with a focus on Canadian companies for now).
Why? Because initially I found a market for such services in Korea and I was interested in that field from the start. I began on my own and now, a few years later I run a small but successful agency. I have a list of repeat customers and am quite happy with how its going. I also work full time for the public sector back here (since 2008-2009) and while I Korea I was teaching full time as well. I have a small permament staff and hire contractual workers for specific mandates we get from specific companies.
Hope that elucidates it enough for you.  |
Thank you, Patrick; I consider myself elucidated now. Also, enlightened. Just to be clear, I don't feel that I was "demanding" details but perhaps my use of the word "exactly" left that impression.
I was genuinely curious as you have referred to your consulting business in several threads. You said you weren't a recruiter as some have suggested so I just wondered exactly (that irksome word again) what it is you do.
Nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for answering. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Plume D'ella Plumeria wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Plume D'ella Plumeria wrote: |
A question for Patrick. You say you are not a recruiter. I'll take your word for it. But I would be quite interested in knowing exactly what your consulting business does. WHAT do you consult? WHO do you consult? HOW do you consult? WHY do you consult?
Exactly what does this consist of, Patrick? I doubt that I'm the only one wondering. How about shedding a little light on your consulting business? It just seems a bit murky to me and elucidation would be appreciated. |
First of all, there is no way I will provide details to extent which you seem to demand on what I do professionally on an online discussion board.
In broad terms however, my consulting agency operates in the field of cross-cutlural / Inter-cultural training and development.
As such typically my client base is made up of various companies that have identified a need to training their employees prior to sending them abroad. We focus on Asia to North America (so Asian companies, mostly Korean and Japanese but looking into China recently) and on North Am to Asia (with a focus on Canadian companies for now).
Why? Because initially I found a market for such services in Korea and I was interested in that field from the start. I began on my own and now, a few years later I run a small but successful agency. I have a list of repeat customers and am quite happy with how its going. I also work full time for the public sector back here (since 2008-2009) and while I Korea I was teaching full time as well. I have a small permament staff and hire contractual workers for specific mandates we get from specific companies.
Hope that elucidates it enough for you. |
Thank you, Patrick; I consider myself elucidated now. Also, enlightened. Just to be clear, I don't feel that I was "demanding" details but perhaps my use of the word "exactly" left that impression.
I was genuinely curious as you have referred to your consulting business in several threads. You said you weren't a recruiter as some have suggested so I just wondered exactly (that irksome word again) what it is you do.
Nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for answering. |
My pleasure and if this actually kills that retarded notion I am or was a recruiter then its win-win.  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| shifty wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| I also work full time for the public sector back here (since 2008-2009) . |
Isn't your parttime agency in conflict with terms and conditions of your public sector contract?
Maybe all the privates you did in Korea has inured you to that kind of problem. |
Not at all.
We have the right to double employment as long as its not in the same field or using PS resources.
Neither is the case.
But thanks for taking that lame shot anyway.
As for the privates in Korea I did a few while on the F-visa...which was LEGAL. Again, thanks for the lame shot.
This is pretty much why I do not post in detail about my work on here...people like you then just take pathetic little pot shots to stir the pot. Don't you have anything better to do shifter? Don't you have a bingo/hangman haggie lesson to deliver tomorrow (since you took shots at me heck..I will too). |
Well, I was genuinely curious.
All your stuff about me taking pot shots at you is generally nonsense. I will admit though, my snide remark about the privates is definitely on the edge. But I did put a smiley there, hey! What more do you want?
Otherwise my belated congratulations on your reply to Plume. It's to the point and nicely concise. I thought he had really put his foot in it that time and was going to get a treatise with both barrels. |
Sorry if I missunderstood your post shifty but you did take a pot shot at me, you often do and then you counter with "oh it was not a shot but perhaps it was a snide remark"...which is really the same as taking a shot.
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No, you didn't misunderstand my post, I mean how clear can clear be?
To repeat, I don't take pot shots at you. Rather I respond to outrageous things you say and way you couch things.
For example, look above in the quoted bit. You say "Don't you have a bingo/hangman haggie lesson to deliver tomorrow?" Are you not aware that many posters teach at hakwons and you showing outright contempt for them?
This is an abiding theme of yours and I think it unwarranted and objectionable. |
Except that comment you cited was in response to YOU taking a shot at ME. You however took a swipe at me without any provocation based on a post where I directly responded to Plummes question.
Thats just you doing the ole Potomac two step and trying to twist things around. You routinely weigh in on threads where I post and take shots at my post and then cry foul when I respond in kind.
The haggie bingo comment was directed at YOU as a direct and proportionate response to you insinuating I was either lying or hypocritical (comment about private lessons). You can dress it up all you want but that is your MO when it comes to my posts.
To be clear, I do not actualy care where you work. I also have tons of friends working Hakwons who do a fantastic job. So no, I do not show contempt for Hakwon teachers...I did however show contempt for YOU. Now that should be pretty clear. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| This thread's in dire need of a Care Bear stare. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:27 am Post subject: |
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awesome!
But what the heck was Skeletor from He Man doing in a Care Bears episode?!
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| To be clear, I do not actualy care where you work. |
Of course not, and is how it should be.
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| So no, I do not show contempt for Hakwon teachers... |
If you truly don't, why do you use those terms as a derisive epithet? You now have no credibility. What's done is done and you should simply apologize.
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| I did however show contempt for YOU. Now that should be pretty clear. |
You should have used some other means of expression to convey your contempt for me. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
awesome!
But what the heck was Skeletor from He Man doing in a Care Bears episode?!
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Skeletor belongs in episodes of everything. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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I like Korea more since I started pretending I don't live here. I can only imagine how much I'll like the place after I've actually left and can really forget how it feels to live here, like all the oppressive gloom and profound unfairness in the way this country's leaders treat their people. Maybe I will even come back to Daves and start riding people for whining and being ungrateful for their great opportunity to make okay money in the land of the hopeless.  |
I actually like Korea a lot better now since I accepted the possibility that I'll live the rest of my life here and even die here. Perhaps when it's time to go, I'll take a trip to the States. until then, I'll probably stay here for a long time. I just try to ignore everything that pisses me off. Maybe I box so I can bash other Koreans in the face. But I have met a few Koreans who share my belief and that gives me hope. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| shifty wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| To be clear, I do not actualy care where you work. |
Of course not, and is how it should be.
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| So no, I do not show contempt for Hakwon teachers... |
If you truly don't, why do you use those terms as a derisive epithet? You now have no credibility. What's done is done and you should simply apologize.
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| I did however show contempt for YOU. Now that should be pretty clear. |
You should have used some other means of expression to convey your contempt for me. |
Nope that was a perfect way for me to express contempt for you because it mimicked what you had just done to me.
Apologize? Thats usually the responsibility of the person who insulted the other first, in case you drove by it shifty, that would be YOU.
Now we are done, I have played this game enough with you. Go pester someone else or keep dancing around the issue in that way you always do...either way...buh bye now. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Nope, that was a perfect way for me to express contempt for you because it mimicked what you had just done to me. |
So you are prepared to insult a broad swathe of Dave's posters in order to get at me. Yeah, it's perfect. Perfect and ridiculous. Also exposes your readiness for the old fib.
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| Apologize? Thats usually the responsibility of the person who insulted the other first, in case you drove by it shifty, that would be YOU. |
Not apologize to me, but obviously to those whom you now taken great pains to suddenly esteem. You would have gotten away with it if it had been a once off, but it's become your trademark.
You remind me of a Colonel Blimp figure. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Maserial wrote: |
| The Floating World wrote: |
awesome!
But what the heck was Skeletor from He Man doing in a Care Bears episode?!
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Skeletor belongs in episodes of everything. |
I was going to say Skeletor does whatever he wants, but I think you summed it up succinctly. |
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