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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Christ alive, Koreatimes, sounds like it's the time of the month! |
Yes, that time of month to suggest demos and interviews. I am an evil person.
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| why are you even in Korea if you don't have anything positive to say about the place? |
You are right, giving demos and interviews means you are 100% negative. I guess I am an evil person.
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| why do you have to impose yourself on a country if you are seemingly so set against it? |
Yea, I am set against Korea. That's why I left my money there, why I teach people Korean, and plan on going back at some later time. I am an evil person.
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| koreatimes was a bit harsh though. |
I suggested they give a demo lesson and interview. That's harsh? I guess so. I am an evil person.
All of you attacking me are no better than what you are portraying me to be. In the end, you are worse, because I never told this person not to come to Korea. I simply hold a position against an application process which doesn't allow the teacher to select where they want to work. That doesn't mean there aren't alternatives.
By the way, did I mention demos and interviews?
Let's address the topic and not attack each other, please. |
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Plume D'ella Plumeria
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: The Lost Horizon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: |
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koreatimes, I highly doubt that you're an evil person and I do think you honestly mean to help others.
That said ... you post a lot in these forums and are often the first one to respond to an OP.
And while I consider myself a fairly intelligent person with decent reading comprehension skills, much of what comes out of your mouth (or flies off your keyboard) simply does not make sense. To me, anyway.
The OP in this thread sounded like a nice person who was expressing her appreciation for all the help she's received on this board. She gave reasonable and level-headed responses to those who questioned her desire to live in Seoul. She was also polite to you initially and later stood up for herself when you kept badgering her.
So, I don't quite get what the problem is. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| much of what comes out of your mouth (or flies off your keyboard) simply does not make sense. To me, anyway. |
Instead of making a generalization about me overall, don't address me. Address the content. What specifically doesn't make sense? Pick one thing, start there, and ask. Before you judge, ask.
I can't explain why I stated something unless I know specifically what you are referring to. When you make broad generalizations about a person, you end up character assassinating them. It doesn't matter if I have something worth saying or not, you owe it to the other person to say what specifically you don't understand or what that person isn't making clear.
From there, the lines of communication can open up and hopefully a better understanding (on either side) can be attained.
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| So, I don't quite get what the problem is. |
Me neither. I guess you don't like demos and interviews. Fine, fill out applications. You can have mine. I prefer to go in person, solicit myself, and pick and choose my schools. |
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Foster
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I apologise Koreatimes, more often than not all the negative posters on here just morph into one great big troll inside my head and so I may have attributed some things to you that you didn't say.
And I respect the constructive criticism/advice hidden deep away in your posts....But I still cant help wondering if they're might be a slightly more relaxed way to offer it? It does often seem like you're getting on peoples cases simply because they don't know things you wouldn't be expected to know if you weren't in Korea...and that is sort of the entire point of this forum, is it not?
Anyway, I'm intent on playing nicely so that's my final comment on the matter  |
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proverbs
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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koreatimes was a bit harsh though.
I suggested they give a demo lesson and interview. That's harsh? I guess so. I am an evil person.
All of you attacking me are no better than what you are portraying me to be. In the end, you are worse, because I never told this person not to come to Korea. I simply hold a position against an application process which doesn't allow the teacher to select where they want to work. That doesn't mean there aren't alternatives.
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WTF? you thought my post was attacking you? LOL. you have some issues if you think your posts are ok but my simple post was 'attacking' you. WOW. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| simply because they don't know things you wouldn't be expected to know if you weren't in Korea...and that is sort of the entire point of this forum, is it not? |
Nothing is hidden. I specifically addressed filling out an application and skipping over pages as being not in the best interest of a teacher or community of teachers. I don't know how more blatantly to get this across. Either you get it or you don't. It's not my fault if you don't.
As for it only being related to Korea, that would be completely incorrect. This could be said of any job or "drafting". We are not soldiers to be commanded where to be stationed. If I were in any other country or city where I am from, I would be saying and doing the same thing.
Do demos and interviews. Don't just fill out an application and go where they order you to go. Common sense really. |
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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This thread was initially just a big thank you, yet the typical smartasses had to butt in and have their say.
Last edited by pikadoopoo on Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:55 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread was initially just a big thank you, yet the typical smartasses had to butt in and have their say. |
A thank you for completing an application and putting someone in a "potentially" perilous situation?
I felt a need to warn the original poster and I stated that I hope for their sake I am wrong. That's all that was originally intended. I thank you for reading my comments, but there is no need to attack me further. I said what I said and I don't want to make this into a thread where I have to defend myself constantly.
Let's move on. Again, good luck original poster. I hope they place you in a good location. If they don't, remember, there are alternatives (better or worse, you decide). |
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread was initially just a big thank you, yet the typical smartasses had to butt in and have their say. |
A thank you for completing an application and putting someone in a "potentially" perilous situation?
I felt a need to warn the original poster and I stated that I hope for their sake I am wrong. That's all that was originally intended. I thank you for reading my comments, but there is no need to attack me further. I said what I said and I don't want to make this into a thread where I have to defend myself constantly.
Let's move on. Again, good luck original poster. I hope they place you in a good location. If they don't, remember, there are alternatives (better or worse, you decide). |
I wasn't really picking you out specifically.
You mentioned her skipping things over, being in a perilous situation, getting ordered around, etc...
The OP did not skip anything over. She filled out the EPIK application and specifically stated that she wanted Seoul ONLY. (You seemed to be unaware of the merge between SMOE and EPIK.) She is not getting ordered around. If she's accepted, she'll be placed in Seoul --- not in Gangwon-do, not in Daejeon --- just Seoul. Granted, she doesn't have the choice of which neighborhood in Seoul she'd be in. Still, there is nothing wrong with what she's doing.
If she's rejected, she won't have to worry about getting placed in a random town. She'll have to start the search for a hagwon in Seoul. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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pikadoopoo,
You are stating incorrect information about me. I kindly request that you stop. I will not post here in defense of these false assumptions about me. Find someone else to taunt.
Anyone with a modicum of understanding and decency would see I suggested they give a demo and interview instead of applying to/through an organization, regardless who they have merged or not merged with. Move on, don't comment about me further. |
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pikadoopoo
Joined: 19 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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pikadoopoo,
You are stating incorrect information about me. I kindly request that you stop. I will not post here in defense of these false assumptions about me. Find someone else to taunt.
Anyone with a modicum of understanding and decency would see I suggested they give a demo and interview instead of applying to/through an organization, regardless who they have merged or not merged with. Move on, don't comment about me further. |
Strange. Anyone with eyes can see that you presumed all of these things I just mentioned. Why are you making yourself out to be some kind of victim? I'm not taunting you. I'm replying to your assumptions and explaining why what the OP is doing is perfectly fine. Several people here have pointed out your fallacies, yet you don't seem to understand and blame others for taunting you.
Edit - I don't understand how doing demos and interviews (which you only suggested later on) will help with the OP's desire to work in a Seoul public school. Your advice applies to hagwons. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: |
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pikadoopoo,
You are stating incorrect information about me. I kindly request that you stop. I will not post here in defense of these false assumptions about me. Find someone else to taunt.
Anyone with a modicum of understanding and decency would see I suggested they give a demo and interview instead of applying to/through an organization, regardless who they have merged or not merged with. Move on, don't comment about me further. |
Strange. Anyone with eyes can see that you presumed all of these things I just mentioned. Why are you making yourself out to be some kind of victim? I'm not taunting you. I'm replying to your assumptions and explaining why what the OP is doing is perfectly fine. Several people here have pointed out your fallacies, yet you don't seem to understand and blame others for taunting you.
Edit - I don't understand how doing demos and interviews (which you only suggested later on) will help with the OP's desire to work in a Seoul public school. Your advice applies to hagwons. |
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