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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:00 am    Post subject: Losing Motivation Reply with quote

Are there other people out there who just have no motivation or energy to do anything anymore? All I can seem to do lately is just get by with the bare minimum. At school I dont have the enthusiasm I used to have and can't really get excited about teaching anymore, I just go through the motions and am just there.

More importantly at home I have a 6 month old and a Korean wife. We've been married for a little over a year and it's great and all but I don't ever feel like going out or doing anything. All I really want to do is lay around the apartment and play PS3 or watch movies. I can't blame it on drinking becuase I rarely drink anymore because of the baby. I have a gained a little weight but I doubt that's the problem. Maybe I'm just really lazy?

I used to be a pretty happy person with lots of energy to go out and explore and try new things. That changed big time in the last couple months and my wife thinks it might have something to do with her. I do reassure her that it is not her fault and I actually do enjoy coming home to her and J Rock Junior Very Happy, but she is still concerned and I can understand why.

I do have some lingering thoughts that I have not discussed with her that maybe it is Korea that has beaten me down into being a hermit. I keep thinking about running away back home but then snap myself back into reality and think how will that make the situation better? Being back in Michigan with a wife, kid, no job, no house, but my saving grace is the money I have saved. After I bought a car, and got an apartment and things to furnish the apt. I probably wouldn't have that much left then where would I be.

I do have it pretty good here I guess decent 2 bedroom and a job that pays ok but not too many hours. Maybe it's just some sort of winter depression (that i've never had before).

Anyone else experience something like this? With a family or without?
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are tired.

Key: you have a 6 month old at home.

Give yourself time to adjust.

Father of two speaking here! Very Happy
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like teaching is a boring profession for you as it was for me. You can teach well and the kids love you, but you find it's just draining because it's not your fortay. Our choices in what we studied at university and read about in our free time says more about the kind of work we need. If you have an F2 visa, I'd look into doing something more business oriented and rewarding such as starting a high school test prep and tutoring hagwon.
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sublunari



Joined: 11 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortay.

I'm also married to a Korean, I also have a six month-old--and yes, in spite of all the good things, the great health care, the great job, the decent apartment, the-city-that-is-not-a-city-that-is-Gyeongju, I am desperate to get out of here and, like, do something with my life. Staying here seems a lot like living in my parents' basement; whenever I'm lucky enough to leave this country I always feel as if I'm stepping back into the real world.

Some of that frustration definitely comes from all the difficulties of having a baby in the house, and that would be the same anywhere in the world, but the garbage everywhere, the endless traffic, all of the problems that have been whined about (and apologized for) on this website, grind you down.

The horrifying thing that makes all of this so much worse is that I probably won't be leaving for years. I would also suggest that you find something more productive to do with your time; sometimes it feels as if writing and reading are the only things keeping me on this side of sanity.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a break. Go to Thailand, have fun play golf tell everyone you're doing research for your book.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sublunari wrote:
Fortay.

I'm also married to a Korean, I also have a six month-old--and yes, in spite of all the good things, the great health care, the great job, the decent apartment, the-city-that-is-not-a-city-that-is-Gyeongju, I am desperate to get out of here and, like, do something with my life. Staying here seems a lot like living in my parents' basement; whenever I'm lucky enough to leave this country I always feel as if I'm stepping back into the real world.

Some of that frustration definitely comes from all the difficulties of having a baby in the house, and that would be the same anywhere in the world, but the garbage everywhere, the endless traffic, all of the problems that have been whined about (and apologized for) on this website, grind you down.

The horrifying thing that makes all of this so much worse is that I probably won't be leaving for years. I would also suggest that you find something more productive to do with your time; sometimes it feels as if writing and reading are the only things keeping me on this side of sanity.


Ok.
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might help to change up your routine.

Start going to bed earlier, sleeping in a different location (try the floor), get into yoga... whatever you can do to wake yourself up a bit.

Good luck getting through this. Things can be really awesome in Korea and terrible back home... state of mind is crucial. I've felt beaten down in both places.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whenever I'm lucky enough to leave this country I always feel as if I'm stepping back into the real world.


This is something my friends and I have said for years to each other, literally word for word.

But it's only because of the novelty factor. After a few months fo getting settled, the same feelings of boredom and frustration kick in, which has little to do with the country but what you're doing with your life.

OP - where do you teach? I had become a ground down alcy through working the tape recorder ps gigs and the monkey gig at the hakwan mills and I had literally become a shadow, no energy or motivation inside and merely going through the motions for the displosable income which I could only enjoy by gambling or drinking it all away....

But my new job is a lot more challenging and rewarding, teaching returnees and even a Russian kid and a Japanese kid at an school with and international school curriculum and longer classes. It's a lot more work but que surprise - that has woken me up and the fact that I have each class for between 2 - 3 hrs (with breaks) and am actually using REAL MATERIALS and doing REAL TEACHING and a wide host of activities and learnig methods just like as if I were their home country ele teacher with them all day long, has pulled me right out of my rut and I feel like a smart, intelligent and useful human being again and don't even mind taking work home for no o/t pay.

Maybe it's not the country per se, but your cushy yet unstimulating job.

Humans need to be stimulated in the areas they have aptitudes for and feel they are being well uitilised or they start to decay.....

you could be on a beach in Acapulco and after a few months of a grinding job, you'd feel exactly the same imo....
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
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whenever I'm lucky enough to leave this country I always feel as if I'm stepping back into the real world.


This is something my friends and I have said for years to each other, literally word for word.

But it's only because of the novelty factor. After a few months fo getting settled, the same feelings of boredom and frustration kick in, which has little to do with the country but what you're doing with your life.


It is probably a language issue, too. Despite being able to speak enough Korean to get by, I miss being able to have casual conversations with the people around me. My Korean is good enough for me to do this, but not as easily as in English.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you got married and had a kid!!

Of course life will be more humdrum.....your baby needs continuity and stability and a lot of your time for the first few years.....

......when the kid gets older you can do more, go out more, do some traveling.....whatever.

But for now, your decision to get married and have a kid means you're going to have to be a lot more domestic and a lot less fun, fun, fun!
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Man, you got married and had a kid!!

Of course life will be more humdrum.....your baby needs continuity and stability and a lot of your time for the first few years.....

......when the kid gets older you can do more, go out more, do some traveling.....whatever.

But for now, your decision to get married and have a kid means you're going to have to be a lot more domestic and a lot less fun, fun, fun!


Yeah, I don't even know why this would come as a surprise. Having a kid isn't just something you do on the side. It's a full time job that requires your full attention almost all the time. Which is why I never plan on having one.
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strange_brew



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have felt much the same way the past few months. I don't go out as much, I just want to lay around, etc. I'm tired of the job. As has been mentioned, it's fairly easy, etc, but you're just going through the motions. I don't find it challenging, and don't want to put much effort into it. However, I'm not married and have no ties to here anymore, so I'm off, off, off, when this contract ends in a few months, and I cannot wait.

I think I'm tired of the routine here after work as well. What do we do when we go out here? Most people drink whenever they go out, your friends constantly change because people are so fleeting here, and as also been mentioned, we don't really have casual conversation, since we aren't totally fluent in the local dialect. I feel for you, but you have a wife and kid, so you'll have to figure it out.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with the posters who say outright that it's the kid's arrival that has precipitated all this.

The OP's wife, who is no doubt bearing the brunt of the baby's needs, knows that his new-found lethargy is not natural or normal. Thus her ongoing concern. She probably wishes that he would drop the game/movies and go out with the guys or something.

A young man's zest can cope with the boundless needs of a young family.

A young man becomes energised by these events, everything else being equal.

I think the OP needs to recover his morale by visualising some attractive long term idea.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been like that for like two years now. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets worse, but I'm never really feeling good. Or, I feel good when I play video games. Read books. Any kind of escapism. But that isn't living.

My four year sentence is up in five weeks. I'm hoping that will help. God knows nothing else has.

shifty wrote:

I think the OP needs to recover his morale by visualising some attractive long term idea.


Yeah, that's what I've been doing.

Even now with the light (supposedly) visible at the end of the tunnel I can't really imagine life being anything other than a fking drag. The small glimpses I get of a better world seem like a dream. It's hard to believe in them.

I sound depressed but I am not depressed. I've been depressed and this is different. (I even took a depression inventory test - scored 0.) I've posted a fair amount about my opinions of Korea and why I think I feel this way. Some places just make it hard to have a happy life.

That said, I definitely would have made more of an effort to look on the bright side and make the best of a lousy situation if I didn't have the option of leaving.

The first thing I'd do if I was looking at spending a substantial amount of time here would be to get some basic proficiency with the language. (Though honestly it was trying to learn Korean that started the spiral of loathing in the first place. An out-dated language for a backwards country.)
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll add to my post about a more interesting and stimulating job helping that - not being the only foriegner at work is good too.

I had been the only wayg at work since 2006 and it grinds you down. You become used toyour own company all day too much.

Having someone at work you can talk to and not have to spell everything out to is a big plus.
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