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The Floating World
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Sports might be all over the world but on one has a craze and draws as many fans for sporting events as the US. |
Uh, soccer does way more. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| We don't mind foreigners coaching our teams. Koreans do. |
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| Why do Koreans get foreigners to coach? Is it because there are no native people here that understand that quality is better than quantity? . |
So first you blast Koreans for not hiring foreigners and then when people point out that actually they have hired quite a few you blast them for hiring foreigners?
They have had Korean coaches as well before. They are just trying to find the best coach be he Korean or foreigner. |
Basherdom at its finest: Korea goes right, they say "should have gone left." Korea goes left they say "Korea should have gone right".
In their mind Korea can't do right. No matter what they do, they'll be wrong because they are Korean. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sports might be all over the world but on one has a craze and draws as many fans for sporting events as the US. |
Uh, soccer does way more. |
Where does soccer bring more than the MLB, NFL, NBA, various NCAA events, HS and MS sports in America? I said events not one sport. And the NFL must be more popular than people think in England. The Bears and Bucs played back in Oct. and had over 70,000 people.
I said Koreans didn't like foreigners coaching their teams. In ever said they don't have them.
The idea that all HS and college athletes are passed is insane and silly.
And what exactly is Korea churning out? They have rules against foreigners in their pro basketball league.
And the US Taekwondo team has 4 people with a Korean last name out of 16 coaches. Maybe 2 of those are Korean. We don't mind foreigners as our coaches.
I'm far from a Korea basher. In no way have I bashed Korea.
You admitted The US was King. And like I said before everyone loses. Its the nature of sports. No the king doesn't always win. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
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I said Koreans didn't like foreigners coaching their teams. In ever said they don't have them.
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Having EIGHT foreigners in the last 20 years for the soccer team alone does not support that theory though. |
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The Floating World
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Where does soccer bring more than the MLB, NFL, NBA, various NCAA events, HS and MS sports in America? |
Pretty much everywhere in the world outisde of America.
Lol, are you really THAT ignorant? I know Foottie isn't popular in the states (I'm not even a fan myself btw) but has far larger global following and stadium ticket sales than NFL lol. Again, OUTSIDE of the USA (which isn't the whole world lol.) |
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warmachinenkorea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Where does soccer bring more than the MLB, NFL, NBA, various NCAA events, HS and MS sports in America? |
Pretty much everywhere in the world outisde of America.
Lol, are you really THAT ignorant? I know Foottie isn't popular in the states (I'm not even a fan myself btw) but has far larger global following and stadium ticket sales than NFL lol. Again, OUTSIDE of the USA (which isn't the whole world lol.) |
The largest socce stadium in the world is in North Korea and it holds 150,000 the next is in India at 120,000.
The largest NCAA football stadium is America is in Michigan at 114,000.
And look here for the numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
I'm not THAT ignorant.
4 of the top 5 are in America at a total of 132,823,990 (these are the 4 in America.
The rest are soccer with a total of 63,737,316
It's double!
And yes outside of the USA would be the whole world. The NFL has the highest average attendance beating out soccer in Germany by about 22,000 spectators
So again I ask where does soccer bring in more than NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA various events HS and MS sports in America? |
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The Floating World
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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The largest socce stadium in the world is in North Korea and it holds 150,000 the next is in India at 120,000.
The largest NCAA football stadium is America is in Michigan at 114,000. |
I already said OUTSIDE of AMERICA. Learn to read context. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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The largest socce stadium in the world is in North Korea and it holds 150,000 the next is in India at 120,000.
The largest NCAA football stadium is America is in Michigan at 114,000. |
I already said OUTSIDE of AMERICA. Learn to read context. |
Where does soccer bring more than the MLB, NFL, NBA, various NCAA events, HS and MS sports in America?
This is my original question. I was comparing other places to the US. Of course people in other countries can't attend these events. LEARN TO READ A QUESTION. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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I said Koreans didn't like foreigners coaching their teams. In ever said they don't have them.
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Having EIGHT foreigners in the last 20 years for the soccer team alone does not support that theory though. |
Yea like every person on Dave's saying their school or hagwon not turning on the heat when it was cold indicates that that Koreans don;t turn on the heat. But becasue you had to remove your suit coat because it was too toasty where you work all places in Korea turn on the heat. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
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| Where does soccer bring more than the MLB, NFL, NBA, various NCAA events, HS and MS sports in America? |
Pretty much everywhere in the world outisde of America.
Lol, are you really THAT ignorant? I know Foottie isn't popular in the states (I'm not even a fan myself btw) but has far larger global following and stadium ticket sales than NFL lol. Again, OUTSIDE of the USA (which isn't the whole world lol.) |
The largest socce stadium in the world is in North Korea and it holds 150,000 the next is in India at 120,000.
The largest NCAA football stadium is America is in Michigan at 114,000.
And look here for the numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
I'm not THAT ignorant.
4 of the top 5 are in America at a total of 132,823,990 (these are the 4 in America.
The rest are soccer with a total of 63,737,316
It's double!
And yes outside of the USA would be the whole world. The NFL has the highest average attendance beating out soccer in Germany by about 22,000 spectators
So again I ask where does soccer bring in more than NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA various events HS and MS sports in America? |
The NFL as the highest average attendance in part because it only plays 16 games a season. If the NFL played 38 games, average attendance would not be as high.
Also look at the market size of the various cities. Compare England to America and there is a massive difference. Use the old noodle.
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| They have rules against foreigners in their pro basketball league. |
They have a limit of two foreign players. Most developing leagues in countries do this so that they can generate interest in their sport and grow the fan base and to keep competitive balance amongst the teams. Get a clue.
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| I said Koreans didn't like foreigners coaching their teams. In ever said they don't have them. |
Any proof of this? |
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The Floating World
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Also look at the market size of the various cities. Compare England to America and there is a massive difference. Use the old noodle. |
Wow. The Ignorance.
Soccer is huge in the whole of Europe and the rest of the world outside N.A. Not just England. Bigger than any other sport, HANDS DOWN.
I don't even like it myself, but it's just a fact.
Facts are facts, drop the emotional attachment guys.
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| At the turn of the 21st century, the game was played by over 250 million players in over 200 countries, making it the world's most popular sport |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:55 am Post subject: |
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lol what does any of "this" (last 2 pages) have anything to do with this
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| SEOUL: A teenager in education-obsessed South Korea allegedly killed his mother because she hounded him to come top in exams, and then hid her body at their home for eight months, police said Thursday |
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DIsbell
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Derails worked his magic on this topic, that's what happened. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Proust. You just can't argue it straight can you?
You remind me of this jerk I went to junior high with. . .
Your arguments fall just as flat. |
So since you can't point out what's wrong with his arguments, you resort to a childish side story and insults? And to top it off, you claim that he can't argue straight? Lame. |
I can and have pointed out the flaws in his arguments. Again and again and again.You're more than a little late to the party.
Nothing childish about the story. The shoe fits.
Ever play sports? |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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So many ridiculous and flawed notions here. Wow. 1. The idea that there should be a ratio of total population to Olympic medals is just statistically wrong. While a larger gene pool should help and give a country a greater chance of having naturally gifted athletes, you cant say that "China should have 4 times the medals as the US because they have 4 times the population." Each country is limited to the number of athletes they can enter in any event. Basic statistics.
2. Korea should be very proud of the medals they have won. They have focused and put lots of money and effort in obscure stuff they can win: archery, shooting, short track speed skating. Medals bring Koreans tremendous pride ( however in my opinion all events were not created equal.)
3. The NCAA is not really corrupt. They put unrealistic and completely bizarre rules in place and then break their own rules.
4. If you watched the last Olympics in Beijing you realize that the US will probably never be the overall medal winner in the Summer games again. China will. China has used the Korean method and supersized it. The US doesnt have a national Olympic medals plan and will never find, train, and support world class archers in order to up the medal count. And in reality Americans dont want to see that. Example: The number 1 NFL Offensive lineman draft pick this year will be 350+ pounds, 6 foot 7, with extremely quick feet and hands. This guy could be an olympic gold medal winner in the hammer throw. But nobody wants to see that . We want to see him on Sundays in the NFL instead.
5. And about the baseball: Koreans are good at baseball especially in February when an exemption from the army is at stake. But as good as major league players? Come on. |
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