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jhicks99
Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: Canadians who renewed recently or are renewing on E2... |
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Brief history:
First came to Korea Oct 2008, taught for one year. Supplied Immigration with original diploma, sealed transcripts (approved by consulate in Toronto) and notarized background check. Finished contract, went back to Canada for 4 months.
Came back to Korea for a different employer (my current one, start date March, 2010). Supplied new transcripts, notarized copy of diploma and new background check.
Renewed March 2011 for 1 year, no documents required.
Now my boss informs me that to renew again in 2012 I'm required to get new sealed transcripts and a notarized copy of my diploma and have them stamped by a Korean consulte or embassy IN CANADA along with a new background check that also has to be notarized and stamped at a consulate in Canada.
She contacted immigration multiple times and was told this is required for all Canadians renewing at this time. We have several Canadians here who will be renewing in March.
This seems like the biggest pain in the butt ever. Are any other Canadians out there facing such a similar headache? I'm supposed to arrange for all of these documents to be ordered from Korea, have them notarized and stamped in Canada and then forwarded to Korea? Even though I've now taught with this same employer for 2 years, have been accepted by immigration twice in the past and have zero issues with my employer or the law?
Can immigration be this stupid? I know Korea isn't a very efficient country when it comes to work practices, and I can imagine a government office being that much worse... but it almost seems easier for them to hire someone new then renew someone existing here.
Are we being fed the wrong information or are all this absurd hoops really required? They've seen this documentation several times already from me and others. Do they really must think we have fake degrees and were since convicted of crimes in Canada despite living in Korea since our last background check? Seems like a massive waste of mine and my bosses time, money and energy and Korean taxpayer money if you ask me.
Anyway, just want to verify this upcoming headache/nightmare has no alternatives. Thanks! |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of Criminal Check do you have? City check? RCMP?
Was your degree notarized by a Korean embassy/consulate? |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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EVERY Canadian who has not supplied a Korea consulate certified COPY of their degree and a Korean consulate certified police check WILL be required to submit one for their next extension, renewal, change of status or new visa.
Everyone who HAS already submitted said documents are fine and will just need copies of the same (can be obtained from Kimmi) to submit to the MOE in 2012.
Your extension in 2011 fell inside the grace period (2011) from the change in requirements (announced in 2010) that was given to allow everyone time to meet the new requirements.
If you need it for a March renewal you better get on it or you will be going home. I hope you have someone at home to assist and do the legwork because you are already too late to get it done by mail from here.
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jhicks99
Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks ttompatz.
In February 2010 they received a certified copy of my degree. Do I still need a new one? How do I obtain a copy from kimmi?
As for the background check... We all got our fingerprints done and have forwarded them to the RCMP for a federal background check, who will then forward them to the Korean Embassy in Canada for us who will then forward them back to Korea. All parties have been contacted and agreed to this process. So I think we are on the ball when it comes to background checks (it made sense to take care of all of us Canadians here at once), we started the process two weeks ago.
For the degrees, it seems some will have to get a new certified copy. As I already have already submitted mine, I just need to get it from kimmi? Sorry if I'm out of the loop and have no idea what you're talking about there.
We spoke to the Korean embassy in Canada who advised they will only certify a copy of a degree if transcripts are supplied along with it, which means those would have to be ordered for those that didn't submit a certified copy. Much thanks for your information!!!
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EVERY Canadian who has not supplied a Korea consulate certified COPY of their degree and a Korean consulate certified police check WILL be required to submit one for their next extension, renewal, change of status or new visa.
Everyone who HAS already submitted said documents are fine and will just need copies of the same (can be obtained from Kimmi) to submit to the MOE in 2012.
Your extension in 2011 fell inside the grace period (2011) from the change in requirements (announced in 2010) that was given to allow everyone time to meet the new requirements.
If you need it for a March renewal you better get on it or you will be going home. I hope you have someone at home to assist and do the legwork because you are already too late to get it done by mail from here.
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks ttompatz.
In February 2010 they received a certified copy of my degree. Do I still need a new one? How do I obtain a copy from kimmi?
As for the background check... We all got our fingerprints done and have forwarded them to the RCMP for a federal background check, who will then forward them to the Korean Embassy in Canada for us who will then forward them back to Korea. All parties have been contacted and agreed to this process. So I think we are on the ball when it comes to background checks (it made sense to take care of all of us Canadians here at once), we started the process two weeks ago.
For the degrees, it seems some will have to get a new certified copy. As I already have already submitted mine, I just need to get it from kimmi? Sorry if I'm out of the loop and have no idea what you're talking about there.
We spoke to the Korean embassy in Canada who advised they will only certify a copy of a degree if transcripts are supplied along with it, which means those would have to be ordered for those that didn't submit a certified copy. Much thanks for your information!!!
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EVERY Canadian who has not supplied a Korea consulate certified COPY of their degree and a Korean consulate certified police check WILL be required to submit one for their next extension, renewal, change of status or new visa.
Everyone who HAS already submitted said documents are fine and will just need copies of the same (can be obtained from Kimmi) to submit to the MOE in 2012.
Your extension in 2011 fell inside the grace period (2011) from the change in requirements (announced in 2010) that was given to allow everyone time to meet the new requirements.
If you need it for a March renewal you better get on it or you will be going home. I hope you have someone at home to assist and do the legwork because you are already too late to get it done by mail from here.
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If you need a copy of the degree that was submitted to Korean immigration, go to the office and ask for a copy. They will process it there and you then have it to give to the MOE when they ask for it in Feb.
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Not so fast Ttompatz. There are exceptions to every rule.
I just had my girlfriend call Immigration regarding my file (not the hotline, the actual office here in Seoul). The immigration officer confirmed what my school told me this summer. "Everything is fine."
My 2008 Canadian Embassy notarized, City check with Vulnerable Sector through the RCMP database is ACCEPTABLE and I DO NOT have to submit an RCMP check or have any check certified by the Embassy back in Canada.
I did, however, have my degree notarized by the Korean Embassy and that was submitted to immigration last July.
Further, the officer confirmed that my Visa is good until 2013 (though she wouldn't give the exact date for privacy reasons). I had thought this was an error when I saw that my ARC was stamped valid until 2013 but apparently not. For some reason, I was issued a 25-month E2 Visa extension. I have no idea why. My contract with my school is only for one year.
Anyhow my point is this: for people with unusual circumstances, contact immigration directly. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| bobbybigfoot wrote: |
Not so fast Ttompatz. There are exceptions to every rule.
I just had my girlfriend call Immigration regarding my file (not the hotline, the actual office here in Seoul). The immigration officer confirmed what my school told me this summer. "Everything is fine."
My 2008 Canadian Embassy notarized, City check with Vulnerable Sector through the RCMP database is ACCEPTABLE and I DO NOT have to submit an RCMP check or have any check certified by the Embassy back in Canada.
I did, however, have my degree notarized by the Korean Embassy and that was submitted to immigration last July.
Further, the officer confirmed that my Visa is good until 2013 (though she wouldn't give the exact date for privacy reasons). I had thought this was an error when I saw that my ARC was stamped valid until 2013 but apparently not. For some reason, I was issued a 25-month E2 Visa extension. I have no idea why. My contract with my school is only for one year. |
Your check met the criteria (national (CPIC) check with C-embassy or K-consulate certification). It is good for 10 years or until you change to an F2. I have no idea why you got a 2 year E2. I will have to inquire about that one.
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bobbybigfoot wrote: |
Not so fast Ttompatz. There are exceptions to every rule.
I just had my girlfriend call Immigration regarding my file (not the hotline, the actual office here in Seoul). The immigration officer confirmed what my school told me this summer. "Everything is fine."
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Careful to that Bobby. I have also visited immigration and asked about my degree papers on file... been told all is good. Later alas they can not find my papers. Same office, couple months later. Lucky was given the 2011 grace period.
Well people lets she how my renewal and transfer goes soon. Find out in a week or two. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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