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Having Second Thoughts about the CELTA Course; Suggestions?

 
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daveeslcafe888



Joined: 09 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Having Second Thoughts about the CELTA Course; Suggestions? Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

I'm having some second thoughts about the CELTA course.

1. The reasons I got it were:

a. Taught me real skills that many teaching courses don't.
b. Opened up my teaching opportunities.
c. Definitely won't hurt me.

2. The reasons I may cancel the course I signed up for are:

a. Expensive
b. May not get me anywhere

3. From those who've taken it, can you give me your opinions?

(It sounds like it's a decent investment, if you plan to teach for over two more years, especially outside of Korea; for anything else, it sounds like it's best to spend money elsewhere).

Any suggestions?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a crap or get off the pot.
If you sit on it all day you get nothing done.

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nzbradly78



Joined: 23 Mar 2009
Location: Czech Republic

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are planning on staying in Korea for the long term, or only teaching in Korea, then don't bother. It'll provide you with the techniques and tools to be a more effective EFL teacher. However, if you don't plan on doing it for the long term or outside of Korea (probably China too) where you probably won't be compensated for higher qualifications, then why spend the money, right?

However, a lot of jobs in (especially) Europe and South America require a CELTA or DELTA. Its a long term investment and its a good course if you plan on teaching EFL for a career or at least for a while.
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Vimfuego



Joined: 10 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well worth the money. Better schools, like the British Council, insist on it. Once you get in a place like that, the World's your oyster.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vimfuego wrote:
Well worth the money. Better schools, like the British Council, insist on it. Once you get in a place like that, the World's your oyster.


Well, considering it's essentially their product (they offer the course there), I'd hope so. Laughing
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:41 am�� �Post subject:
Vimfuego wrote:
Well worth the money. Better schools, like the British Council, insist on it. Once you get in a place like that, the World's your oyster.


Well, considering it's essentially their product (they offer the course there), I'd hope so.
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Well actually it isn't their product (it's a Cambridge qualification) and they don't insist on it either. They accept people with any recognized equivalent that includes the requisite number of hours and teaching observations.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aint worth anything more than a ba and experience outside of the EU for getting jobs.

As far as I remember the BC ask for the DELTA plus two years DELTA post grad experience.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not true again, they ask for CELTA or equiv + 2 years experience and there are many countries outside the EU that ask for TEFL qualifications as a minimum
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Having Second Thoughts about the CELTA Course; Suggestio Reply with quote

daveeslcafe888 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I'm having some second thoughts about the CELTA course.

1. The reasons I got it were:

a. Taught me real skills that many teaching courses don't.
b. Opened up my teaching opportunities.
c. Definitely won't hurt me.

2. The reasons I may cancel the course I signed up for are:

a. Expensive
b. May not get me anywhere

3. From those who've taken it, can you give me your opinions?

(It sounds like it's a decent investment, if you plan to teach for over two more years, especially outside of Korea; for anything else, it sounds like it's best to spend money elsewhere).

Any suggestions?


You haven't given any good reasons why you shouldn't take the course...or shouldn't have taken it. It's difficult to tell from the tenses you use whether you've already taken it, are currently taking it, or are signed up for it and will take it. At the very least, the course could help you with your tenses.

But seriously, whether it's a CELTA or another on site 120+ hour TEFL course, it will open doors to better jobs than just a BA. And even with the CELTA being more expensive than other courses, it'll still pay for itself within a few months. I'd say stick with it.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first CELTA learning experience is answering all of the grammar questions on the application. Most native speakers lack grammar awareness. This is why we can't always answer the "weird" grammar questions that our students come up with.

The CELTA course itself was intense, like bootcamp for teachers. I worked pretty hard and that month flew by. It was hard to really absorb everything because it went so fast.

A lot of what they teach are strategies, games, and theory. You write very detailed lesson plans. Some people stayed up all night working on lesson plans. In real life, you will never have the time or the patience to write plans like the ones required in the CELTA course. The job that I got following CELTA paid hourly. I wasn't getting paid for prep time at all. But in spite of this, an extraordinary amount was expected. I sometimes felt as lost as I was at my first kindy job. Mentally sorting through everything again and trying to apply it to Korean students was exhausting.

I sorta wish that I'd taken the course in Korea. I enjoyed the city that I visited (Istanbul) but if I wanted to be more successful with Korean students, I should have thought about conducting that CELTA teaching practice with Korean students. Much of the eliciting that could be done with European students isn't as helpful with Korean students. My employer thought it appropriate and important but the research that I read during CELTA and my experiences of having students stare at me blankly have taught me otherwise. Knowing why this happens is of some consolation but sometimes knowing a lot of theory holds you back instead of helping you out.
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rickshaw79



Joined: 27 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished mine in Seoul (part time basis) - helped make the difference in me getting a uni job for this coming March.

Stick with it
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Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Having Second Thoughts about the CELTA Course; Suggestio Reply with quote

daveeslcafe888 wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I'm having some second thoughts about the CELTA course.

1. The reasons I got it were:

a. Taught me real skills that many teaching courses don't.
b. Opened up my teaching opportunities.
c. Definitely won't hurt me.

2. The reasons I may cancel the course I signed up for are:

a. Expensive
b. May not get me anywhere

3. From those who've taken it, can you give me your opinions?

(It sounds like it's a decent investment, if you plan to teach for over two more years, especially outside of Korea; for anything else, it sounds like it's best to spend money elsewhere).

Any suggestions?



If you're just here for two years at happy sunshine kids hagwon in yongbongju city, save the money and cancel it. If you're here for longer, CELTAs are becoming more useful.

And honestly, it doesn't prepare you well for teaching such passive students.
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Vimfuego



Joined: 10 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it does improve your teaching whether to passive or active students. It makes you think about every stage of the lesson and what the learning aims are for your students.
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Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vimfuego wrote:
it does improve your teaching whether to passive or active students. It makes you think about every stage of the lesson and what the learning aims are for your students.


That's true, but it really doesn't help you with many strategies for teaching passive/disinterested learners. Mind you, maybe there aren't many strategies for those types of learners. I just think for a two year stint, it's not worth a grand and the stress that comes with it.
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