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Triban
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:41 am Post subject: Stop saying whinge! |
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I have seen this misspelling more than anything, ever, on this site.
It is whine. W-H-I-N-E.
Whinge, would sound like, winj. I don't even...
Also, Merry Christmas. |
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Skipperoo
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| Whinge is also a word. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Eh? You do know that whinge is a British word, right? |
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Triban
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Location: Suwon Station
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: |
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I was not aware, actually. Apologies. You learn something new everyday!
"Whinge" and "whine" are actually entirely different words with separate histories. "Whine" traces to an Old English verb, "hwinan," which means "to make a humming or whirring sound." When "hwinan" became "whinen" in Middle English, it meant "to wail distressfully"; "whine" didn't acquire its "complain" sense until the 16th century. "Whinge," on the other hand, comes from a different Old English verb, "hwinsian," which means "to wail or moan discontentedly." "Whinge" retains that original sense today, though nowadays it puts less emphasis on the sound of the complaining and more on the discontentment behind the complaint. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Whingers going to whinge. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Triban wrote: |
I was not aware, actually. Apologies. You learn something new everyday!
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And for the next lesson... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Uncle Sam wants you....to stop whining
John Bull wants you...to stop whinging
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'll stop saying "whinge" when Americans stop saying the following:
"Could care less"
"Gotten"
"Wanna/Gonna"
Thank you. |
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Chet Wautlands
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
I'll stop saying "whinge" when Americans stop saying the following:
"Could care less"
"Gotten"
"Wanna/Gonna"
Thank you. |
I didn't realize that it was a North American construction... the more you know!
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"Gotten is probably the most distinctive of all the AmE/BrE grammatical
differences, but British people who try to use it often get it wrong.
It is not simply an alternative for have got. Gotten is used in such
contexts as
They've gotten a new boat. (= obtain)
They've gotten interested. (= become)
He's gotten off the chair. (= moved)
But it is not used in the sense of possession (= have). AmE does not
allow
*I've gotten the answer.
or *I've gotten plenty.
but uses I've got as in informal BrE. The availability of gotten
does however mean that AmE can make such distinctions as the following:
They've got to leave (they must leave) vs
They've gotten to leave (they've managed to leave)."
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds better IMO to say "I have a new boat", "He has moved off the chair" etc.
I'm not that bothered about the differences between American and British English, but the use of 'got' rather than 'have' is something that annoys me.
Compare "I have a cold", to "I have got a cold". The "got" seems to be redundant and out of place. Anyway, you say tomato etc.. |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
I'll stop saying "whinge" when Americans stop saying the following:
"Could care less"
"Gotten"
"Wanna/Gonna"
Thank you. |
Dont forget some of the other classics
"my bad "
"I wanna leave already"
"Im gonna get me one of those"
"Get my eat on" |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought "Have you got?" rather than "Do you have?" was a Britishism.
Excellent, now I can stop teaching it when it comes up - I was trying to be fair-handed to the Brits.
To be fair, there are some pretty dumb Britishisms/slang.
"That's legend!" / "Ledge!"
"Yur American, Innit?"
"Wot?"
"Shedule" *shudder*
And, please, if you're going to go after American nonsense, get it right! It's "I'm gonna get me one of them (back shavers)!" |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| "They've done good" is another one which gets right up my nasal passage. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Where can I buy whinge nuts in Seoul? |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| nukeday wrote: |
I always thought "Have you got?" rather than "Do you have?" was a Britishism.
Excellent, now I can stop teaching it when it comes up - I was trying to be fair-handed to the Brits.
To be fair, there are some pretty dumb Britishisms/slang.
"That's legend!" / "Ledge!"
"Yur American, Innit?"
"Wot?"
"Shedule" *shudder*
And, please, if you're going to go after American nonsense, get it right! It's "I'm gonna get me one of them (back shavers)!" |
haha yes I dont see any problem with "have you got" I know loads of people in England who say that.
You are also right about us having equally annoying phrases, nothing wrong with Shedule though 
Surely not as bad as Vytamin and A Luminum |
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