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Zulethe

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: I may want to immigrate to Canada |
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http://www.canadavisa.com/social-workers-4152.html
Little background here: I'm currently in a MSW program and I'm set to graduate in May 2013. With the economic conditions in the states, I may have to consider jobs in Canada. I'm sure I could get some type of job here right out of college but maybe not THE job, i.e., two years post graduate work in a job which will put me into position to apply for my licensure.
I won't go into all of the details here but I've heard that social workers are in really high demand right now in Canada. I would work about anywhere right out of college for the right pay and experience. The first job out of college for social workers is critical in order to set the tone for the rest of one's career.
Any Canadians out there who know anything about this? I got my BA from Western Washington University in Bellingham, Washington, which is about 30 miles from the Canadian border so I've spent a lot of time in Vancouver and absolutely love the city.
thanks mates
sincerely,
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking French and going to school there seem make this significantly easier, at least from the anecdotal evidence I have. |
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Redcap
Joined: 03 Jan 2010
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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In most Canadian provinces, social work is governed by regulatory bodies, otherwise known as Colleges. For example, if you want to work in B.C., you should contact the British Columbia College of Social Workers.
I would recommend that your first course of action should be to contact a College in the province of your choice, and determine whether your U.S. MSW will be recognized. From there, the College can advise you on the job market and whether immigrating from the U.S. is a realistic possibility.
Good luck |
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Joe Boxer

Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Location: Bundang, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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10 years ago next month, I finished my BSW at Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia. I was interested in child protection, as it was the highest paying area of the social work field.
At that time, there weren't many positions available in my city, and the the offers I received were lower than I was expecting. I interviewed in nearby
Maine, and received generous job offers, including an agreement to sponsor my visa. I ended-up doing some phone interviews for positions in Ontario, and negotiated a high (for a 1st year child protection worker) salary there. I believe I started at 45,000. Again, that was 10 years ago. Perhaps salaries are higher now?
Btw, I don't think French is a requirement, outside of Quebec and New Brunswick. I only know about 10 words in French. There may be different requirements for US citizens, though. |
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Zulethe

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Thank you all for your responses, really good stuff. You saved me hours and hours of searching for that information and now I have a good base to start from.
@ Joe...45,000 for a starting CPS worker is high. I used to do that job and started at about 32,000 in Phoenix Arizona in 2006. But this is higly dependent on the state probably just like Canadian provinces.
The great thing about working in Canada is the exchange rate is now just about 1 for 1. I remember the days when 75 cents US could buy one Canadian dollar. From what I've gathered, I could start as high as 25 Canadian per hour, which I think is pretty darn good.
I'm currently interning in a state prison, which is awesome as far as clinical experience goes. If one can work in a prison environment, one can work anywhere.
That being said...Asia is still my long term goal for retirement...I can't get it out of my blood. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Remember that it is emigrate to Canada.
Seriously though, keep in mind that Canadians pay a lot higher taxes than the U$A. In addition, Vancouver is a very expensive city to live in. Housing has not gone down since the winter Olympics. I wish you the best of luck to you!
* Sorry for the spelling mistake. 
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Joe Boxer

Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Location: Bundang, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
Remember that it is emmigrate to Canada.
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No, he got it right. It's emigrate from the US, immigrate to Canada.
(And to be a total *beep*, emigrate has only one 'm')
EDIT: Sorry, man! I just looked it up and they use "emigrate to Canada" on the Canadian Visa Bureau site .
http://www.visabureau.com/canada/emigrate-to-canada.aspx
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Boxer wrote: |
Btw, I don't think French is a requirement, outside of Quebec and New Brunswick. I only know about 10 words in French. There may be different requirements for US citizens, though. |
Per my understanding, being fluent in both French and English gives you a whole bunch of points towards qualifying for visa status. This is based on knowing a few people in school who chose to immigrate after we graduated. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Boxer wrote: |
Harpeau wrote: |
Remember that it is emmigrate to Canada.
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No, he got it right. It's emigrate from the US, immigrate to Canada.
(And to be a total *beep*, emigrate has only one 'm')
EDIT: Sorry, man! I just looked it up and they use "emigrate to Canada" on the Canadian Visa Bureau site .
http://www.visabureau.com/canada/emigrate-to-canada.aspx |
You are aware that they are NOT approved by the CIC, not a member of the ICCRC or a provincial law body and cannot legally offer advice or assistance nor represent anyone during the immigration process.
(hint: they and the services they provide are illegal under Canadian law).
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2011/2011-06-28.asp
mmigration representatives must be either members in good standing of a provincial or territorial law society, including paralegals; members of the Chambre des notaires du Qu�bec; or members of the governing body for immigration consultants.
Probably not the best place to look for accurate and relevant information.
A better choice might actually be the CIC.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/
And an immigration lawyer or consultant is NOT necessary. Unlike trying to get into the States (a long, convoluted and unclear process) the immigration process going to Canada is quite simple and painless by comparison and you CAN do it by yourself.
(Immigration consultants usually slow the process down by adding extra and unnecessary steps).
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Joe Boxer

Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Location: Bundang, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Joe Boxer wrote: |
Harpeau wrote: |
Remember that it is emmigrate to Canada.
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No, he got it right. It's emigrate from the US, immigrate to Canada.
(And to be a total *beep*, emigrate has only one 'm')
EDIT: Sorry, man! I just looked it up and they use "emigrate to Canada" on the Canadian Visa Bureau site .
http://www.visabureau.com/canada/emigrate-to-canada.aspx |
You are aware that they are NOT approved by the CIC, not a member of the ICCRC or a provincial law body and cannot legally offer advice or assistance nor represent anyone during the immigration process.
(hint: they and the services they provide are illegal under Canadian law).
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2011/2011-06-28.asp
mmigration representatives must be either members in good standing of a provincial or territorial law society, including paralegals; members of the Chambre des notaires du Qu�bec; or members of the governing body for immigration consultants.
Probably not the best place to look for accurate and relevant information.
A better choice might actually be the CIC.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/
And an immigration lawyer or consultant is NOT necessary. Unlike trying to get into the States (a long, convoluted and unclear process) the immigration process going to Canada is quite simple and painless by comparison and you CAN do it by yourself.
(Immigration consultants usually slow the process down by adding extra and unnecessary steps).
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Oh, I only cited the Canadian Visa Bureau page for their usage of the word "emigrate". |
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Zulethe

Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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@ Harpeau...yeah your right about the expenses and the taxes which I didn't consider in the equation. Although I will do the research, I've heard that if one is willing to go to the ends of the earth, i.e., some desolate place where no one wants to live then the pay is substantially more and the competition is substantially less.
Keep in mind, although living conditions and pay are important, the most important aspect is the experience.
My brother works in Prudhoe Bay Alaska - the oil fields - and he makes well over $120,000 per year and only works two weeks on and two weeks off. Further, they pay for his plane ticket to Anchorage where he lives and all of his food is paid for while he's at work. My sister in law, an MD, also works there and flies into remote villages to provide health care.
It's pretty tough to attract certain professions to remote Alaska and I would imagine it would be the same in Canada, which is what I've heard anecdotally. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I can't comment on job prospects but if there are jobs available in areas that qualify for Northern Living Allowance, I assure you the money you'd be making would make anything an ESL teacher in Korea is making look like coffee money. The areas don't necessarily have to be that isolated either, and can only be a 3 or 4 drive away from Edmonton, for example. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Remember that it is emigrate from the US and immigrate to Canada.
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Seriously though, keep in mind that Canadians pay a lot higher taxes than the U$A. |
For 2011, Single Filing Status in the USA the marginal (federal) tax rates
[Tax Rate Schedule X, Internal Revenue Code section 1(c)]
10% on taxable income from $0 to $8,500, plus
15% on taxable income over $8,500 to $34,500, plus
25% on taxable income over $34,500 to $83,600, plus
and in BC Canada (one of the highest taxed provinces)
$0 - $10,527............ 0%
$10,528 - $11,088.... 15.00%
$11,088 - $36,146 ... 20.06%
$36,146 - $41,544.....22.70%
$41,545 - $72,293.....29.70%
Because of the MUCH wider brackets in the States the rates in dollar terms are very similar and the rates for Canada include provincial income taxes and the US rates do not include state income taxes (where they exist - not all states have them).
The rates also do not take into account the provincial or state sales taxes which vary widely.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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You also get a lot more bang for your buck from Canadian taxes than you do from American taxes (government subsidized health care, cheap university tuition). |
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