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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furtakk wrote:
i don't understand how someone who has been in the country for more than a couple of months can be hurting for money. your bills consist of utilities, cellphone and internet (for most of the esl population). how the **** do you end up 200-400K short.


I have never met one ESL teacher who one has the expenses you mention. Everyone has a L I F E Einstein. They have their own things they are paying for - be it a debt; marriage; holiday to see their folks; funeral; education; buying a house; having kids; unforseen health incidents......the list goes on and on.

THink of the thinks people do and pay for back hone and these are the same people who come here to Korea. We still end up paying for alot of things with our 2 or 3 million won salaries.

I am not defending people who need loans. Personally I would consider any request for a loan on its merits and most comments have been spot on. But there are many legitimate reasons why someone MIGHT need a loan here in Korea, especially if they were not good at managing their money.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that's the difference between cultures/personalities OP.

What I mean is that I remember going aboard a Navy ship once with my dad who was friends with a captain. They were inspecting something andI was standing near the hallway and on the other side of a door there was all the men on the ship being paid - in cash. (This was before the military got direct deposit). Anyway, there were these guys *all different races of many kinds* waiting on the other side of this door, they were all joking with each other in a hushed tone and they all had wads of cash in their hand rolled up in little balls.

See these guys were the ship's loan sharks...and that day happened to be a payday.

People like your buddy that loaned out 400,000 to some j/a, are not very smart. Nice yes, but smart no.

Those guys would lend 20 for 30. 30 for 50, and so on. I would see the occasional guy come thru and pay his man on the spot. It would have been a good business in the military, because the customer can't go anywhere, and you know exactly when and where he gets paid. If I'd wanted to, they would have opened the door (hatch?) for me and let me look inside at this long line of guys waiting to get their money - in cash. Imagine all that money those guys were making every two weeks. And you could say "Hey there's dawson in the middle there, he owes me XXX$$$ can't let that one go.

And I guess there was one way in, and one way out.

2 men go in and one man come out;
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither a lender nor borrower be -William Shakespeare- Laughing
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
Neither a lender nor borrower be -William Shakespeare- Laughing


Well said.

Money sours relationships.

I used to lend folks cash but its really not a good idea with the sort of dishonest as$hats and tightwads you get rocking up in Korea.

I'd rather give money away than lend it. That way you can just be done with it.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd rather give money away than lend it. That way you can just be done with it.


Hey Julius, I um took a beating at the track today, couldn't send a cpl hundy my way couldjya?

Very Happy
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
I asked him once after having loaned and been repayed by him several times sums up to 500k - for a two week loan of 250k and knew he had a few mil in the bank and it was like getting blood out of a stone.

Very souring experience.


A lot of very selfish people out there unfortunately...you learn to spot them after a while though. Fakes, egocentrics, and drama queens.

They're the ones who call you day and night the moment they need something but strangely disappear the moment its time to return the favor.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the vetting system recruiters use to hire teachers where I live must be working, because I haven't came across any of the 'freaky waygooks' you lot encounter so often. I can't think of any of my friends in Korea I wouldn't trust with a loan
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a close friend who was paying down student loans who would occasionally borrow 100-200K. He'd send money home right after his payday and occasionally come up short (partly my fault for encouraging parting hehe). He'd always pay back right after his next payday.

I've never loaned to someone other than a close friend. As others have said, it's easier just to give them a man won if they need it or pay for a meal and forget about it. If they're good people they'll get you back another time somehow.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Neither a lender nor borrower be -William Shakespeare-


Actually Shakespeare didn't say this, Polonius did. A character generally portrayed as an interferring busybody.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonpurdy wrote:
I had a close friend who was paying down student loans who would occasionally borrow 100-200K. He'd send money home right after his payday and occasionally come up short (partly my fault for encouraging partying hehe).


I don't get this mentality. I'm not attacking you or anything, but it reminds me of what some people I know or have known have done in the past. I have my rough months and know how to keep myself from blowing wads of cash on going out to restaurants and bars during lean times, but then people will question why I don't have the money to go rock out with them. It's not really that person's business, and, more importantly, I should just be able to say money's tight and not be harassed about it. Or, if the person feels generous and really wants me to come out, they can foot the bill.

I even lost a friendship partly due to such an instance. I was questioned several times by one friend about why I didn't have much money at the moment, and had explained each time that I just (on sudden notice) switched jobs, had to go on Japan visa runs, had moved apartments and threw down the (admittedly rather low) key deposit, and needed to purchase furniture. I ended up throwing a small "welcome back" dinner party for him at my place and he wanted to run to Apgujeong afterwards with friends. I stated that I don't have the money to party at bars, he says he and his friends will foot the bill and that I should come out, and then when we're out he pestered me again about why I didn't have much money. Fed up with it (seriously, why invite me out on your dime and then complain about it?), I angrily chewed him out and walked out. Never heard from him again.
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PeteJB



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give loans based on:

1. How well I know the person (if I know what kind of person they are, I can use that to assume the likelyhood of it being repaid and in a timely manner)

2. How much money I have floating around (usually not much..)

3. If it's for something important.
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motiontodismiss



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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Neither a lender nor borrower be -William Shakespeare-


Actually Shakespeare didn't say this, Polonius did. A character generally portrayed as an interferring busybody.


Well Shakespeare wrote it, didn't he? Doesn't matter who wrote/said it, it's the way to go either way.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well Shakespeare wrote it, didn't he? Doesn't matter who wrote/said it


It reminds me of another literary advice giving session from Brideshead Revisited when cousin Jasper tells Charles how to behave at Oxford.

"You want either a First or a Fourth. There is no value in anything in between. Time spent on a good second is time thrown away ... Clothes. Dress as you do in a country house. Never wear a tweed coat and flannel trousers - always a suit. And go to a London tailor; you get better cut and longer credit ... Clubs. Join the Carlton now now and the Grid at the beginning of your second year. If you want to run for the Union - and it's not a bad thing to do - make your reputation outside first, at the Canning or the Chatham, and begin by speaking on the paper .. keep clear of Boar's Hill ... Don't treat dons like schoolmasters; treat them as you would the vicar at home ... Beware of Anglo-Catholics - they're all sodomites with unpleasant accents."

Of course we know this is the opinion of Charles' cousin Jasper and not what Evelyn Waugh thinks. Whether or not you agree with any of it is a different question. I've heard the first one quoted a lot.
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ajosshi



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

motiontodismiss wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
Quote:
Neither a lender nor borrower be -William Shakespeare-


Actually Shakespeare didn't say this, Polonius did. A character generally portrayed as an interferring busybody.


Well Shakespeare wrote it, didn't he? Doesn't matter who wrote/said it, it's the way to go either way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
furtakk wrote:
i don't understand how someone who has been in the country for more than a couple of months can be hurting for money. your bills consist of utilities, cellphone and internet (for most of the esl population). how the **** do you end up 200-400K short.


Having to pay 3.5 million won every 6 months for MBA tuition.

Need more reasons?


If one has to regularly borrow due to said tuition...perhaps he should have waited to enroll until he had the funds to do so?

As for lending I sometimes do but only close friends/relatives. I'm not a bank or credit agency.
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