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[mr. positive]

With all the crazy new guidelines for teachers and apostilled CBC requirements, I've yet to see a clear, standard answer to one question: are F-2 visa holders required to submit an apostilled CBC from their home country to obtain a university position? I know that E-2s must submit one as an immigration requirement (no matter what level they teach), and anyone working through a job governed by the MOE (i.e. public schools and all hagwons) must submit one, but I'm not clear if there's any such requirement at the university level for F-2 or F-5 visa holders.

I've seen some universities requiring them, but not many, and I'm guessing it's just their prerogative to do so, but that's nothing but my best guess.

[r122925]

As far as I can tell your assumptions are correct. Not legally required by MOE for university instructors, but many universities are asking for them anyway. And the universities are fully within their rights to do so.

I understand the frustration with this, considering how annoying, expensive, and time consuming it can be to obtain one of these checks when you're already in Korea (especially if you're American!), but what can you do? It seems like if you even bring up the possibility of not providing a CBC it's going to look like you have something to hide.

The universities aren't exactly having trouble finding applicants, so if you don't want to get a CBC surely someone else will.

[mr. positive]

Thank you, r122925, for confirming my hunches. I feel the same - it's a nuisance, but a necessary evil at this point, and not worth risking not getting hired for a job you want because you don't have one.

[big_fella1]

You are right it isn't an MOE requirement.

I would ask the university one question though:
"Do you require criminal background checks from Korean employees?"

If the answer is no, why the hell should you submit a check.

Universities have been told to increase their numbers of foreign staff so it is important that we don't agree to lesser conditions in the misguided belief that there is a shortage of university jobs. Yes there is a shortage of great university jobs, but the ordinary ones in the country are still plentiful.

[r122925]

[mr. positive]

For me it boils down to:

I want a good job + they want a CBC = they get a CBC

No point in quibbling about it much more than that, unless, like the previous poster says, you can afford to thumb your nose at the job requirements (and who knows that the gov't won't implement a nationwide standard soon anyways and make this discussion moot).

[Swampfox10mm]

Our university has no CBC requirement for new hires of any visa.

They hadn't even heard about such a thing being required in Korea until I mentioned it to my boss (speaking of public schools).

[NYC_Gal 2.0]

My friend's uni's English department just changed, and they are requiring him to submit his apostilled cbc to renew. He's been married to a Korean woman for years, and has none of these documents, as they only told him about it a couple of days ago. He's been there for years, so, if they don't renew him, that would be sh**ty.

[big_fella1]

[john110375]

[quote="NYC_Gal 2.0"]My friend's uni's English department just changed, and they are requiring him to submit his apostilled cbc to renew. He's been married to a Korean woman for years, and has none of these documents, as they only told him about it a couple of days ago. He's been there for years, so, if they don't renew him, that would be sh**ty.

Does your friend have an F-5 visa ? If so I've heard a Korean check is enough ?? Especially if he's been here for years ?!

[mr. positive]

I've just heard of this new thing wherein if you work at an employer as a contract employee for over two years, you become a de facto regular employee and cannot be arbitrarily dismissed, particularly for something like that that is a new university policy that he was not informed of and not the law. He should start getting the documents they want together ASAP and talk with them about them giving him some time to do it since it's a new policy, etc., but also be ready to go to the labor board if they won't back down. But I'm guessing since it's a new policy, and it's not a matter of law (unis are NOT required by law to request apostilled diplomas or CBCs) that there is a pretty good chance they'll try to work with him on it.

[Swampfox10mm]

[nobbyken]

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[r122925]