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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: Seoul Pub - it was nice knowin' ya. |
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Seoul Pub is still there, but it's character has, in recent months, been irrevocably changed. For many years it was a place where slightly older people (30's, 40's) could go and feel comfortable. But I was there on the weekend and it was easily 80-85% young Koreans in their late teens and early 20s. I'd seen the trend over several months, but I'm afraid to say the old Seoul Pub has now gone. I don't know whether netizens have decided to "reclaim" the place (for some reason), or if it's just because it's the first pub you approach after ascending the steps from the Itaewon subway. Or maybe it's just part of the ongoing Koreanization of Itaewon. Either way, I'm in the search for a new pub. Nothing against young Koreans having fun on the weekend. I just don't have any interest in spending my time in their midst. Not why I go to the pub. Not why I go to Itaewon. I think a lot of other regulars will be looking for another bar too.
Anyway, Seoul Pub. It was nice knowin' ya. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Bless U and Dolce Vita are decent and often have an older crowd. Bless you has one of the best pints for value in Itaewon. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Koreanization of Itaewon.
I guess I understand what you mean, but it still sounds like a parochial view. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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well good business for jung.
but I don't see the appeal for young koreans to go into seoul pub.
strange. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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fosterman wrote: |
well good business for jung.
but I don't see the appeal for young koreans to go into seoul pub.
strange. |
Exactly, I figured that due its character it would be among the last to fall. I agree, it's strange. Of all the places in Itaewon, I can't imagine young Koreans opening the door of Seoul Pub, glancing in and deciding that "Aha, this is what we've been looking for." Weird.
Anyway, it's happened. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Good riddance |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: |
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I am beginning to wonder how long it will be before the street vendors are removed.
IMHO, most of the long term people who are older that I have known have left Korea because it was no longer worth it to them financially, they wanted Western schooling for their kids, etc. Older singles have gone to China, et. al. That could be why. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Seoul Pub - it was nice knowin' ya. |
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Smithington wrote: |
Seoul Pub is still there, but it's character has, in recent months, been irrevocably changed. For many years it was a place where slightly older people (30's, 40's) could go and feel comfortable. But I was there on the weekend and it was easily 80-85% young Koreans in their late teens and early 20s. I'd seen the trend over several months, but I'm afraid to say the old Seoul Pub has now gone. I don't know whether netizens have decided to "reclaim" the place (for some reason), or if it's just because it's the first pub you approach after ascending the steps from the Itaewon subway. Or maybe it's just part of the ongoing Koreanization of Itaewon. Either way, I'm in the search for a new pub. Nothing against young Koreans having fun on the weekend. I just don't have any interest in spending my time in their midst. Not why I go to the pub. Not why I go to Itaewon. I think a lot of other regulars will be looking for another bar too.
Anyway, Seoul Pub. It was nice knowin' ya. |
What time did you go?
Seoul Pub's customers change routinely. The 7pm crowd is completely different than the 9pm crowed. The midnight customers are completely different than the people that go in there at 3am. |
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nate1983
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Seoul Pub - it was nice knowin' ya. |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
The midnight customers are completely different than the people that go in there at 3am. |
Spoken from experience?  |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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That might be so. I'm rarely out past midnight. But I'll tell you something, at no point in the past did any of those groups consists of Korean kids. There was one girl sitting at the bar last week smoking and drinking, and I could swear she was no more than fourteen or fifteen years old. I pointed it out to the waitress and she simply smiled and shrugged.
Now, that's new. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote: |
That might be so. I'm rarely out past midnight. But I'll tell you something, at no point in the past did any of those groups consists of Korean kids. There was one girl sitting at the bar last week smoking and drinking, and I could swear she was no more than fourteen or fifteen years old. I pointed it out to the waitress and she simply smiled and shrugged.
Now, that's new. |
sure she just didnt look young? you know some girls who are legal look 14
I would think Mr Jung would be all over that kind of thing, last thing he wants is his cash cow off limits , or raided by police. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Besides groceries and shopping, Itaewon sucks unless you're some kind of isolationist weirdo. Don't waste your time there or get out of Korea. |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Gorf wrote: |
Besides groceries and shopping, Itaewon sucks unless you're some kind of isolationist weirdo. Don't waste your time there or get out of Korea. |
Finally, a well-balanced voice of reason and tolerance! |
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Italy37612
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Gorf wrote: |
Besides groceries and shopping, Itaewon sucks unless you're some kind of isolationist weirdo. Don't waste your time there or get out of Korea. |
Well poo poo to you too. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Gorf wrote: |
Besides groceries and shopping, Itaewon sucks unless you're some kind of isolationist weirdo. Don't waste your time there or get out of Korea. |
You've never been to places like Praha, The District, Berlin, Zelen's, Etc....
Isolationist? More and more Koreans are going to Itaewon instead of Gangnam/Hongdae nowadays. See the Gentrification of Itaewon thread. |
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