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xhe101
Joined: 11 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
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Yes that mindset is hard to get away from, I had a similar experiences in my conversation classes
We were doing " what you would do if you won the lottery?" I was trying to coax answers out of them asking if they would want boats, private jets, their own island in the Caribbean and then this one kid says "I would buy a fridge"
Fair enough i thought maybe he wants to load it full of gourmet food and champagne so I asked him what for and he said to put " meat, kimchi and soup" inside it !
Then I moved on to the next girl who said she would build a big house and give the rest of the money to her mum, I asked her where she wanted to build the house, and surprise surprise she answered Seoul.
I remember doing similar conversation classes in Mexico, and they answers would be about travelling the world, buying 5 houses, boats, private jets, setting up businesses etc... Generally having imagination greater than wanting to buy a fridge and build a house in Mexico City.
Another topic was about marrying foreigners and I had a 14 year old boy say he wouldnt marry a foreign girl because he doesnt want to pay to go and see her family at Chuseok, I mentioned that maybe he could use it like a free vacation but he still wasnt entertaining the idea of spending his hard earned won on such a wasteful thing. |
I have done the same exercise with several adult classes and also get predictable replies. I would say about 80% would buy a nice apartment in Banpo. I would stress, "No, you're a billionaire (won). You can do whatever you want!" Them: "Ok....maybe I will visit Jeju." A few would give wild answers like going to Cebu for a weekend or Hong Kong to shop. One or two said Europe. For two weeks MAX. It's more sad than anything. I mean, this sort of mentality helped bring about the Miracle on the Han and it's made this country very successful. But, to quote Pulp, "What's the point in being rich if you don't know what to do with it?" |
Out of all the places in the Philippines, why Cebu? |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get how Koreans act so tough with their "Gun dramas". Girls- no.. waifs that have trouble lifting iPods are suddenly transformed into Olympic-class marksmen and the androgynous men are given talents that rival a Navy Seals...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_%28TV_series%29
A Korean's love of all things having to do with Nazis... Someone forgot to tell the locals that Nazis were allies and supporters of Imperial Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_%282011_film%29 |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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2/ Drivers who speed through a new red light so they don't have to wait one or two minutes. The stupidity of this borders on criminal. |
I've gotten "used to" people bumping into eachother by adjusting and doing what they do, but I cannot get used to the driving. I can't count the number of times I've almost been hit by a car. If I wasn't paying attention like those Korean drivers, I'm sure I would've been dead or in the hospital by now.
adzee1 wrote: |
Yes that mindset is hard to get away from, I had a similar experiences in my conversation classes
We were doing " what you would do if you won the lottery?" I was trying to coax answers out of them asking if they would want boats, private jets, their own island in the Caribbean and then this one kid says "I would buy a fridge"
Fair enough i thought maybe he wants to load it full of gourmet food and champagne so I asked him what for and he said to put " meat, kimchi and soup" inside it !
Then I moved on to the next girl who said she would build a big house and give the rest of the money to her mum, I asked her where she wanted to build the house, and surprise surprise she answered Seoul.
I remember doing similar conversation classes in Mexico, and they answers would be about travelling the world, buying 5 houses, boats, private jets, setting up businesses etc... Generally having imagination greater than wanting to buy a fridge and build a house in Mexico City.
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I think that's smarter though. Wasting money on tons of crap is how rich athletes end up being dirt poor. I would probably maintain my current lifestyle. The only difference is that I would probably move to the US and collect tons of guns and go crazy with my boxing gear. Unless you're talking about billions of dollars. Then I would probably buy a private island.
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6 young Koreans walking shoulder to shoulder, blocking both the bike lanes and the pedestrian lane. Me, coming head on at 25 km/h. Que acting surprised when (after ringing my bell) I almost crash into one of them. |
Hate the shoulder to shoulder crap. Instead of moving behind their friends to make more room when they see people coming, they try to squeeze together and maintain formation. Really, it's not gonna kill you to walk behind your friends.
xhe101 wrote: |
(2) Drink, drink, drink! Smoke, smoke, smoke! Marijuana is evil
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To be fair, most Koreans know very little about marijuana and why they think it's bad. I bet you they don't know anything about it other than that people say its bad. I know Koreans who have reconsidered their opinion of pot after I talked to them.
While there are Koreans who sympathize with Hitler's ideal of racial pride (since 민족주의 is a big deal here), that movie is based on stuff that actually happened and is not about glorifying Nazism. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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xhe101 wrote: |
Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
adzee1 wrote: |
Yes that mindset is hard to get away from, I had a similar experiences in my conversation classes
We were doing " what you would do if you won the lottery?" I was trying to coax answers out of them asking if they would want boats, private jets, their own island in the Caribbean and then this one kid says "I would buy a fridge"
Fair enough i thought maybe he wants to load it full of gourmet food and champagne so I asked him what for and he said to put " meat, kimchi and soup" inside it !
Then I moved on to the next girl who said she would build a big house and give the rest of the money to her mum, I asked her where she wanted to build the house, and surprise surprise she answered Seoul.
I remember doing similar conversation classes in Mexico, and they answers would be about travelling the world, buying 5 houses, boats, private jets, setting up businesses etc... Generally having imagination greater than wanting to buy a fridge and build a house in Mexico City.
Another topic was about marrying foreigners and I had a 14 year old boy say he wouldnt marry a foreign girl because he doesnt want to pay to go and see her family at Chuseok, I mentioned that maybe he could use it like a free vacation but he still wasnt entertaining the idea of spending his hard earned won on such a wasteful thing. |
I have done the same exercise with several adult classes and also get predictable replies. I would say about 80% would buy a nice apartment in Banpo. I would stress, "No, you're a billionaire (won). You can do whatever you want!" Them: "Ok....maybe I will visit Jeju." A few would give wild answers like going to Cebu for a weekend or Hong Kong to shop. One or two said Europe. For two weeks MAX. It's more sad than anything. I mean, this sort of mentality helped bring about the Miracle on the Han and it's made this country very successful. But, to quote Pulp, "What's the point in being rich if you don't know what to do with it?" |
Out of all the places in the Philippines, why Cebu? |
That's where the Korean resorts are. |
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Tropic of Cancer
Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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1. Audible, open-mouthed gum chewing
2. Acid-washed skinny jeans
3. Summer
4. "Boring" rather than "bored," "funny" rather than "fun"
5. Stores that play music at nightclub volume (e.g., ABC Mart)
6. Common public bathroom issues: no toilet paper; toilet paper dispenser outside of the stalls; no hand soap; no drying apparatus; squat toilet
7. 24-hour ATMs that stop working, say, after eleven
8. Stores that are open for "25 Hours a day" |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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The overriding thing that bothers me is a local's desire to be the same as others. They don't want to be different or creative, they want to be the same.
I think this desire for being the same, or scared to be different, results in conformity to rules, and creation of rules to follow. I also think the lack of creativity will reduce the economic potential; they'll always be copying.
Face time at work although you don't have work to do, top down communication, memorize the answer, bandwagon fashion and music. It makes the country stale.
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Western countries celebrate individuality and creativity. Here they do not, they model conformity. They study in school how to act Korean. If you don't act that way; you're not Korean. Hence, "Koreans think..." statements. They've been taught that's how to think. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Location: here
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean love of mixed coffee. I don't hate it...I kinda of love it too, but I love it when I'm cold from a ride and sitting on some dingy seat in the bike shop smoking a cigarette with grease on my fingers, chatting to the mechanic and drinking hot sweet coffee.
So many Koreans seem to think the stuff is high class, like Spam, over priced French wine and Ballantine's whiskey.
Some of my rich students love to serve 'expensive' instant coffee. You can't sit down with fancy cups, in your uber fancy custom designed place with fancy napkins all done up in your best department store duds, professing your love of all things like golf, equestrian, world travel, fancy French wine and serve instant coffee! You've got the 2 thousand dollar TV, the best phone, a front loading washer, dish washer, bidet and the Equus in your parking spot...where the f&^% is your coffee machine?
It's like going to en expensive resort on Jeju and drinking Korean beer. |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Adjumas in Restaurants telling me "no this is how you want your food"
And some Koreans arguing with me that I am Spanish, but I'm getting used to the fact I'm Spanish now it must be true if and old Korean person says so. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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1. Korean 'beer'. A disgrace to the name of beer. A blot on the beer landscape everywhere. Absolute garbage pretending to the name of beer.
2. Korean pop 'music'. A disgrace to the name of .... [ditto, ditto, ditto]
3. Shallowness and superficiality. People openly give preference to other people if they are good-looking or have money, as if there were nothing wrong with that.
4. Conformity for conformity's sake. Sometimes the fact that everyone else is doing something *is* a sufficient reason for you to be doing it, but if we're having a debate over what everyone *should* be doing then you need to come up with some better reason!!
5. Korean love of 'education'. Does. Not. Exist. What they love is climbing the ladder. That can be a good thing. It can be a solid virtue. But it shouldn't be confused with love of education. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Malislamusrex wrote: |
Adjumas in Restaurants telling me "no this is how you want your food"
And some Koreans arguing with me that I am Spanish, but I'm getting used to the fact I'm Spanish now it must be true if and old Korean person says so. |
Ha those are good ones, and it's not always ajumas. I've had workers at Chinese places complain that I'm not eating my jajangmyun fast enough (the noodles will get soggy), complain to my friends that they're putting too much soy sauce on their sushi, and tell me I have to eat rice if I ask them for no rice. If you frequent a place regularly, they'll get used to you though.
I've seen Koreans tell non-white Americans that they're not "really American." |
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pegasus64128

Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
large burly men carrying a men's purse
large burly men walking poodles with pink paw slippers
large burly men looking like they are auditioning for Project Runway
and before this thread is locked/deleted
treatment of bears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9WXCCzsmTs |
people like TCA posting propaganda, but not from their own stupid counties.
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pegasus64128

Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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coralreefer_1 wrote: |
Sure makes my home city seem like a police state out of a movie where not only does the highway patrol/city police pull you over for even the smallest infraction like a license plate light being out, or a cracked windshield, hiding out in the bushes on a harley motorcycle equipped with radar guns busting speeders, but also hover around the expressway in helicopters looking for dangerous and aggressive drivers. |
Eh... that's because it probably IS, and please don't complain too much about it if you're from the country I suspect you are from. The problem is YOUR country. Trust me on that one bucko. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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ssuprnova wrote: |
v88 wrote: |
I can't get used to how oblivious Koreans can be to...everything. They appear to have little to no common sense to me so much of the time that it's frustrating. |
Yes! A hundred times this!
My examples:
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Ski resort -- a group of young Koreans get off the lift and promptly sit down less than 10 meters from said lift to put strap into their snowboards. Que acting surprised when the group of skiers getting off the next chair lift almost run into them.
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Some friends of mine were frustrated at the obliviousness and lack of ski etiquette at the Korean ski resorts.
So they took a snowboard trip in Canada. All was going well until one of them almost slammed into a group of guys sitting down to smoke in the MIDDLE of the run, right UNDER a blind knoll where they couldn't be seen from above until you ski over the bump.
He took a hard fall in order to avoid slamming into the group and then yelled at them, to which the response was puzzled grumbling.
...Guess where the group was from!
Oh, the irony.  |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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pegasus64128 wrote: |
coralreefer_1 wrote: |
Sure makes my home city seem like a police state out of a movie where not only does the highway patrol/city police pull you over for even the smallest infraction like a license plate light being out, or a cracked windshield, hiding out in the bushes on a harley motorcycle equipped with radar guns busting speeders, but also hover around the expressway in helicopters looking for dangerous and aggressive drivers. |
Eh... that's because it probably IS, and please don't complain too much about it if you're from the country I suspect you are from. The problem is YOUR country. Trust me on that one bucko. |
If he's from there, wouldn't he have MORE of a right to complain?
For example, if your home country were morphing into a police state, wouldn't you complain a bit? |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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pegasus64128 wrote: |
people like TCA posting propaganda, but not from their own stupid counties.
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Do you know what county I'm from?
did you read the thread title?
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