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What's it like being Half White Half Korean in Korea?
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: What's it like being Half White Half Korean in Korea? Reply with quote

I've always wondered what's it's like in Korea for people who are half white and half Korean.

How do the Koreans treat you?

And for those of you who were raised in Korea, and who speak Korean perfectly and who know the culture, what's it like?


Does everyone assume you're a foreigner and treat you accordingly?

Does it affect your career?
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to hear from the people themselves... or perhaps their parents?
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up until now most half-koreans have left Korea... and preferred to live in the west.

So there's nobody left to say what its like.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Do you want to hear from the people themselves... or perhaps their parents?


Good question Captain. I will wait to see what the OP says.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Up until now most half-koreans have left Korea... and preferred to live in the west.

So there's nobody left to say what its like.



You know this for a fact? I'm not doubting that it's a likely scenario, I'd just like to see some links to articles or something.

If it is true, that in itself speaks volumes.
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Paddycakes



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Do you want to hear from the people themselves... or perhaps their parents?


Good question Captain. I will wait to see what the OP says.




From the people themselves.

I've heard there are quite a few mixed white/koreans living in Korea... so they are out there.

I've heard though that they often face discrimination, but that's just heresay.

I'm sure there are some on this board.

Would be interested to hear your experiences if any of you are listening...
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andrewchon



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One maybe (depending on individual's desires) exempt/excused/excluded from army service for looking not-so-Korean.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is very little discrimination for those who are able to speak both Korean and English fluently. Being able to speak English fluently makes the person a 'global citizen', and that's viewed very positively.
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alongway



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how many grew up here. I know of at least one, and his father is a sometimes poster here. He might be able to relate it for us. Most of the others I know of are still pretty young, so they're not really in a position to comment on it.

For simply being half white half korean and here, there are a fair number of gyopos that come over that were perhaps the kid of a service member who married a korean. They may have moved stateside when they were young and come back to learn more about their country. I think those two experiences would be very different.
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HANGRY



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a half-white gyopo.

My features are pretty white, so most of the time, I get treated the same as your typical white American. I don't speak Korean either which kind of reinforces that treatment. Maybe somebody who spoke Korean fluently would be treated differently.

I look enough like an Asian though that sometimes random people on the street start coming up to me and start speaking to me in Korean. It takes them a second or two to take a hard look at my face and realize I'm not Korean. Surprised

It is kind of interesting the treatment I get at people who KNOW I'm half Korean though. Like I still get the typical "Oh, you should be careful, that is really spicy" or "Wow, you use chopsticks really well!" comments from them. In my head I'm like "Um... I grew up eating spicy food and using chopsticks... It's not a big deal..."

Basically though, as with most things in Korea it boils down to appearances. If you look foreign, people will treat you foreign. If you look Korean, people will treat you Korean. There is no middle ground here.

Regardless of how people treat me, I just try to remember who I am, and that other peoples perceptions have no bearing on that.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HANGRY wrote:
I'm a half-white gyopo.

My features are pretty white, so most of the time, I get treated the same as your typical white American. I don't speak Korean either which kind of reinforces that treatment. Maybe somebody who spoke Korean fluently would be treated differently.

I look enough like an Asian though that sometimes random people on the street start coming up to me and start speaking to me in Korean. It takes them a second or two to take a hard look at my face and realize I'm not Korean. Surprised

It is kind of interesting the treatment I get at people who KNOW I'm half Korean though. Like I still get the typical "Oh, you should be careful, that is really spicy" or "Wow, you use chopsticks really well!" comments from them. In my head I'm like "Um... I grew up eating spicy food and using chopsticks... It's not a big deal..."


My son looks almost exactly like I did at his age, except he has a fairer complexion than I have (same hair colour and complexion as my mother). So, imagine people's surprise when he, an elementary school kid, orders the spiciest food on the menu, proceeds to add red pepper powder to it, and then devours it Korean style: slurping it up (air is sucked in in order to increase the intensity of the flavours, in case you're wondering), drinking the broth to the last drop by holding up the bowl, and then exclaiming loudly, "Mashita!" when he's done. My wife and I get a huge laugh out of the looks on the other patrons' faces.

HANGRY wrote:

Regardless of how people treat me, I just try to remember who I am, and that other peoples perceptions have no bearing on that.


Yes, that's a good attitude.

Just the other day, a guy on the chairlift (we were snowboarding) asked us where we were from. I replied that I'm Canadian and that my son has dual citizenship. My son, who's very proud of the fact that he's multi-ethnic, told that guy in Korean that he's, "One half Korean and one half Canadian", the same line my wife taught him when he was still a toddler.

PS. When our son started elementary school, one of our friend's kids told my wife that he was really excited because he had heard that there was a new foreigner at his school. He was extremely disappointed when she told him that it was our son. It had never crossed his mind that it was him since they always talk in Korean when they play together.


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Squire



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read several times on here about people not wanting to raise their kids in Korea because of the education system. I imagine it would be a strong incentive to leave Korea to save your kid the constant pressure of middle and high school. Also with an Asian parent pushing a kid to study in the western education system they are likely to go far. I know for a fact I would have done a lot better in school if I'd had a Korean parent pushing me to study every night (or even one night a week Embarassed )
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Julius



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
Julius wrote:
Up until now most half-koreans have left Korea... and preferred to live in the west.

So there's nobody left to say what its like.



You know this for a fact? I'm not doubting that it's a likely scenario, I'd just like to see some links to articles or something.

If it is true, that in itself speaks volumes.


just from what I've seen.

I've never met a mixed race person who was raised in korea. Things are thankfully changing now, of course.
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12ax7



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
some waygug-in wrote:
Julius wrote:
Up until now most half-koreans have left Korea... and preferred to live in the west.

So there's nobody left to say what its like.



You know this for a fact? I'm not doubting that it's a likely scenario, I'd just like to see some links to articles or something.

If it is true, that in itself speaks volumes.


just from what I've seen.

I've never met a mixed race person who was raised in korea. Things are thankfully changing now, of course.


Never? How long have you been in Korea? There are plenty on TV. Singers, actors, a basketball coach (I think he's retired now). Hell, one of the frequent commenters here has an adult son who was raised and works in Korea.
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Julius



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12ax7 wrote:
There are plenty on TV. Singers, actors, a basketball coach.


Sure, there may be two or three in the entire country.
Thats hardly a trend now though is it?.. in a nation of 50 million people. Rolling Eyes

Sure, they were partially raised in K. But mostly raised abroad.

A couple of years in an international school is hardly the same as being raised in Korea proper.
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