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eventually
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: Lesson plan. Help? |
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Would anyone be willing to help me create an example lesson plan for an application? I have experience tutoring ESL, but I'm going to be a new teacher. I would love it if someone could help me understand what they are looking for. Thank you! |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Start by writing down:
0. Where English room
1. What time 1.20 pm
2. How long 40 min
3. What class grade 6-1
4. Level of Competancy beginer-intermediate
5. Approach eclectic/holistic/grammar/etc
6. text book pages ##-##
7. Resources needed song CD, ppt of flags of nations
8. lesson objective I am from Canada.
A. Warm up 5 min
B. Open to page ## 20 min
i. look and listen, understand?
ii. listen and repeat
C. Let's sing 10 min
if time left
D. Let's play 5min
if not
E. I am from Canada/vietnam
That's a barebones version of a lesson plan. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Location: You're the man now dog!!
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:51 am Post subject: |
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8. lesson objective I am from Canada. |
I am absolutely clueless what that is a lesson plan for. The objective is "I am from Canada" but the questions 0 (usually I number starting with 1, but ok, A for ingenuity, to 2 (1-3 in my head) has to do with the classroom. Then the rest until the objective is teacher's info, not really lesson content.)
I could never have a lesson plan like this.
If the lesson is about Canada, I would talk about big cities in Canada like Vancouver (for me it's Toronto because I am from Detroit, I am not sure how "famous" it is for others but I think Vancouver is the most often mentioned.) Talk about hobbies like hockey. I am not originally from Canada so I will leave the culture for a Canuck to share. Perhaps some differences between American and Canadian English. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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eventually wrote: |
Would anyone be willing to help me create an example lesson plan for an application? I have experience tutoring ESL, but I'm going to be a new teacher. I would love it if someone could help me understand what they are looking for. Thank you! |
Translating ..... I am lazy and need somebody to do my work. Thinking is so hard.
Well to not be a complete bastard check out the following books.
"Teaching English as a Foreign Language For Dummies"
"Planning Lessons and Courses: Designing Sequences of Work for the Language Classroom"
If you want to find them for free use google keep the quaotes and add the word "avax". Downloaded, open read, study.
OR sir are you willing to pay for said lesson planning.
If so what is your offer. If not I am sure as heck not going to do a bunch of work for nothing. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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YTMND: as I said it is a bare bones version. Elementary grade 6 textbook lesson 1 is about learning the preposition 'from' in the context of meeting a new transfer student from Vietnam.
Some need lesson plan such as this because the co-teacher needs the info 0 to 8 and most co-teachers like to stick to the textbook.
Yes it needs more content but my co-teacher said it's past 5 PM and she wanted to go home. |
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eventually
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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Skippy wrote: |
eventually wrote: |
Would anyone be willing to help me create an example lesson plan for an application? I have experience tutoring ESL, but I'm going to be a new teacher. I would love it if someone could help me understand what they are looking for. Thank you! |
Translating ..... I am lazy and need somebody to do my work. Thinking is so hard.
Well to not be a complete bastard check out the following books.
"Teaching English as a Foreign Language For Dummies"
"Planning Lessons and Courses: Designing Sequences of Work for the Language Classroom"
If you want to find them for free use google keep the quaotes and add the word "avax". Downloaded, open read, study.
OR sir are you willing to pay for said lesson planning.
If so what is your offer. If not I am sure as heck not going to do a bunch of work for nothing. |
No, actually, I don't want someone to do my work for me, but thank you for your delightful and welcoming attitude.
I was asking if someone would be kind enough to tell me what they are looking for, so I can create the plan myself. I filled out a lengthy application for some schools. Part of this application is a sample lesson plan. They provided me with a template, and I used the template to create a plan regarding adjectives. (Like I said, I've been an ESL tutor for years, so I know grammar inside and out!) However, my recruiter (a very nice fellow!) asked me if I would add more information. I was at a loss, so thought I would ask actual teachers who probably have experience and would know exactly what kind of detail is needed. No, not actually write the plan, but tel me that "x, y, and z" definitely should be on it, etc.
The one I submitted was actually a lot more deailed than andrew's, however, so maybe I just need to write more filler.
Btw YTMND, I like your name. Have you ever seen uncut, ohh!? I did that one! I created a meme! exciting stuff! |
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Luciddreamer
Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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Skippy wrote: |
eventually wrote: |
Would anyone be willing to help me create an example lesson plan for an application? I have experience tutoring ESL, but I'm going to be a new teacher. I would love it if someone could help me understand what they are looking for. Thank you! |
Translating ..... I am lazy and need somebody to do my work. Thinking is so hard.
Well to not be a complete bastard check out the following books.
"Teaching English as a Foreign Language For Dummies"
"Planning Lessons and Courses: Designing Sequences of Work for the Language Classroom"
If you want to find them for free use google keep the quaotes and add the word "avax". Downloaded, open read, study.
OR sir are you willing to pay for said lesson planning.
If so what is your offer. If not I am sure as heck not going to do a bunch of work for nothing. |
............and no one is going to pay you Skipper since you're anonymous. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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eventually wrote: |
Skippy wrote: |
eventually wrote: |
Would anyone be willing to help me create an example lesson plan for an application? I have experience tutoring ESL, but I'm going to be a new teacher. I would love it if someone could help me understand what they are looking for. Thank you! |
Translating ..... I am lazy and need somebody to do my work. Thinking is so hard.
Well to not be a complete bastard check out the following books.
"Teaching English as a Foreign Language For Dummies"
"Planning Lessons and Courses: Designing Sequences of Work for the Language Classroom"
If you want to find them for free use google keep the quaotes and add the word "avax". Downloaded, open read, study.
OR sir are you willing to pay for said lesson planning.
If so what is your offer. If not I am sure as heck not going to do a bunch of work for nothing. |
No, actually, I don't want someone to do my work for me, but thank you for your delightful and welcoming attitude.
I was asking if someone would be kind enough to tell me what they are looking for, so I can create the plan myself. I filled out a lengthy application for some schools. Part of this application is a sample lesson plan. They provided me with a template, and I used the template to create a plan regarding adjectives. (Like I said, I've been an ESL tutor for years, so I know grammar inside and out!) However, my recruiter (a very nice fellow!) asked me if I would add more information. I was at a loss, so thought I would ask actual teachers who probably have experience and would know exactly what kind of detail is needed. No, not actually write the plan, but tel me that "x, y, and z" definitely should be on it, etc.
The one I submitted was actually a lot more deailed than andrew's, however, so maybe I just need to write more filler.
Btw YTMND, I like your name. Have you ever seen uncut, ohh!? I did that one! I created a meme! exciting stuff! |
Specifics! Your original post is two sentences. Why did you not try to give some details. Ask some serious indepth questions. Put some effort into the post. It was a bit vague as I missed the keyword - they
Well then what kind of they. Public school, hagwon, University? Age of students? Once again details! Little info and useless info I made assumptions. I read have esl tutoring experience but no teaching. So I guessed likely he is applying for a public school but maybe not. Once again no details.
Let's take two questions:
I want to know how to program a computer. Can anybody help me?
OR
I trying to learn to program a computer. I am thinking of working with web page. I have picked up some basic web programming books finished and read them. I have been practicing for about 2 months and have developed two sites. I was wondering about such applications as RUBY and PYTHON. .......
Sure as heck do not ask me for planning. One I am lazy and two I am more a pick up book and teach kind of guy.
Still Good Luck to the OP. Maybe the second book I recommended might prove useful.
Last piece of advice for the OP. Like everybody else I do not want more work and definitely for nothing. So when somebody just throws out a call for help to the world, I look for a reason. It may not need to be money. It could be an interesting story. Or it could be just easy for me because the poster decided to explain what they need in detail. Plus if the person has shown that they have tried and even done most of the work, people help more as they figure is the help will not be one sided.
I could go on. So OP give us some details and ask us what is confusing you.
Well more filler is good. Sometimes just throwing out masses of stuff impresses people. More so here in Korea at times. [/i] |
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eventually
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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Skippy wrote: |
Well more filler is good. Sometimes just throwing out masses of stuff impresses people. More so here in Korea at times. [/i] |
Indeed. It's just unfortunate that you thought your post would be one of those times that it might impress someone.
I haven't taught, so I thought a "lesson plan" was a basic tool that all teachers used, regardless of age, and that each one would probably be organized in the same way, regardless of age. If someone would have agreed to help me, I was hoping we could discuss details in PM. Anyway, I already added more information and sent it in again. I'm sure I'll do fine.
I can be as vague as I'd like to be, by the way, on a job search board that I imagine is being read by recruiters. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Lesson plan. Help? |
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Ya a good fix up will be fine with extra detail. It all depends on who looks at it. You might get a good look over (likely not), or just a quick glance (more likely). If it looks nice and set out. Most people are lazy or will go the path of least resistance.
eventually wrote: |
I can be as vague as I'd like to be, by the way, on a job search board that I imagine is being read by recruiters. |
Yep you can be as vague as you want to be. And when people read your posts and see vague question, they will be vague too or even more likely skip it.
Recruiters trolling the board. I highly doubt it. Most do not have the time to lurk here. A major part do not have the higher level English abilities to read the posts. At the most recruiters might keep an eye out for opinions about their agency. Basic search for "OrangeTree" or whatever name. If nothing....
Also numbers wise it would not be worth the effort to watch it for rouge recruitees. Not everybody uses Dave's ESLcafe.
Still Good Luck on your application. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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The impression I got was that you wanted someone to do it for you as well. Like many, I don't think you are as articulate as you may believe.
Anyhow, doesn't it scare you out that you are going to be a "teacher" and can't make a lesson plan on your own? One for the application - maybe it is more important to secure the position - but on a daily basis in your future, you will be doing this! Something you can't seem to do, and that doesn't give you pause for taking the position or at least motivate you to engage in some training? I find that funny and sad. |
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thebektionary
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I really like to help people and was thinking that I could send you my lesson plan rubric but honestly, it would be too complicated to understand it without an explanation.
If your job requires you to make lesson plans and you don't know how to, I would advise against taking the job right now. Go take a TEFL course and then apply for another teaching job.
If you were in my room next to me now I could easily explain it, but it's just too complicated over the internet. It's something that you really have to be trained how to do properly. It's fairly easy, but you need instruction.
Basically, you have to think of a theme of the lesson. It could be "At the train station" or "My favorite things" or something like that. Then you have to start out with an introduction and a warm-up. You have to teach different sections at different times.. like you can start out with vocabulary. So for example, you teach the vocabulary and then you have a practice activity for them to do after you teach it. Then you move onto listening, or reading, or whatever. It's always teaching demonstration followed by a practice activity. Then at the end you do an activity that combines all of the things together that you just taught. Then you do a wrap-up and end the class. It is important that the students have a lot of talking time and that they are the ones participating most. Your talking time should be very little.
That's my TEFL class in a nutshell. |
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Times30
Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Is it the "Korean" template?
Where it has boxes that you fill out for a lesson plan with columns such as time, aim and objective (coincidentally almost being the same thing)?
If that's the case you want to build an "Ideal" lesson plan for the Korean teachers in which it's more about appearing to be well structured. While this isn't how you will teach... it would be more about appearances. Realistically it would be more like a mock lesson plan than an actual lesson plan.
Just as an example you would probably incorporate things like "Ask kids what the answer is". In real life, you wouldn't get any answers and would be spending time checking homework or something. For "ideal" lesson plans we (Korean teachers and I) would eliminate that stuff.
For the Korean lesson planning, try to be general with specifics in the boxes. In my personal experience they want generalities and more of the philosophy of methodology you are applying.
IE. Using grammar translation method when having the kids read. |
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Tigerstyleone
Joined: 01 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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andrewchon wrote: |
Start by writing down:
0. Where English room
1. What time 1.20 pm
2. How long 40 min
3. What class grade 6-1
4. Level of Competancy beginer-intermediate
5. Approach eclectic/holistic/grammar/etc
6. text book pages ##-##
7. Resources needed song CD, ppt of flags of nations
8. lesson objective I am from Canada.
A. Warm up 5 min
B. Open to page ## 20 min
i. look and listen, understand?
ii. listen and repeat
C. Let's sing 10 min
if time left
D. Let's play 5min
if not
E. I am from Canada/vietnam
That's a barebones version of a lesson plan. |
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andrewchon

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Tigerstyleone wrote: |
andrewchon wrote: |
Start by writing down:
0. Where English room
1. What time 1.20 pm
2. How long 40 min
3. What class grade 6-1
4. Level of Competancy beginer-intermediate
5. Approach eclectic/holistic/grammar/etc
6. text book pages ##-##
7. Resources needed song CD, ppt of flags of nations
8. lesson objective I am from Canada.
A. Warm up 5 min
B. Open to page ## 20 min
i. look and listen, understand?
ii. listen and repeat
C. Let's sing 10 min
if time left
D. Let's play 5min
if not
E. I am from Canada/vietnam
That's a barebones version of a lesson plan. |
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