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herminator
Joined: 30 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: University Language Programs and Working |
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I intend to go to Yonsei or Sogang in September after my contract at my current job ends.
I have a few questions for anyone who has experience going to any university language program.
How was the placement test? I am studying with my girlfriend and just using workbooks at home right now. I would be happy if I placed out of the first level of a program.
Did you work while going? If so, how many hours a week did you work? Was it manageable?
If you were working and going to school at the same time, what visa were you on? I have concerns about whether I should switch to a student Visa and apply for work or just get another E2. |
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modernseoul
Joined: 11 Sep 2011 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:30 am Post subject: Re: University Language Programs and Working |
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herminator wrote: |
I intend to go to Yonsei or Sogang in September after my contract at my current job ends.
I have a few questions for anyone who has experience going to any university language program.
How was the placement test? I am studying with my girlfriend and just using workbooks at home right now. I would be happy if I placed out of the first level of a program.
Did you work while going? If so, how many hours a week did you work? Was it manageable?
If you were working and going to school at the same time, what visa were you on? I have concerns about whether I should switch to a student Visa and apply for work or just get another E2. |
I can't comment on the course or placement test, but in regards to working. You can't work legally until after 20weeks of study and have a work permit approved by both your uni and immigration (S-3). At which point you can only work part-time (20 hours max) during term time. No limit during holidays.
The Korean Language Study visa is D4 which changes to a D4-4 when you can work.
You can study on an E2 visa, however my friend tried doing this but found that studying from 9am-1pm then working 2pm-9pm plus traveling to/from Uni & homework, meant for him it was hell. Simply put it wasn't manageable. However there are a number of Korean Language Hagwons that offer shorter and/or part-time courses which are more suitable for E2 workers.
Information on working from HiKorea.go.kr
Application Eligibility
Foreigners that belong to the following may participate in activities associated with general training (D-4) without having to obtain separate permission
- Those seeking Korean language training in college-attached language school within stay period.
Part time employment permission(S-3) of Korean language student(D-4-4) status holders
Application Eligibility
Korean Language Training (D-4-4) visa holder who has being attended more than 6 months.
Activity Limits
Within 20 hours for Monday through Friday in a school term, up to 2 workplaces
However, a foreign student can work without limit on legal holidays, Saturday, Sunday, and vacation
Allowed working field
Occupation acknowledged as having close ties with their major
An occupational category which has close ties with his/her major
Commonly allowed working field for students as translation�interpretation, a librarian�sublibrarian, a school cleaner, a staff at a restaurant, an assistant office worker, a research student at a laboratory who is doing his/her schoolwork and research at the same time, temporary assistant instructor, an assistant experimentation teacher, etc.
Foreign language instructor at an educational institute as a private institute, etc. (the one must satisfy the necessary conditions to be a foreign language instructor)
※ Private tutoring is prohibited by law regarding establishment and organization of an educational institute and extracurricular lessons
Other legal labor field
A salesperson, a clerk at a restaurant, an assistant at an event in an English Village or an English camp (other foreign language like Chinese, Japanese, etc. regarded camps are also available) |
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Hyeon In
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: |
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I worked while going to Sogang. I taught in the afternoon at the university I work at. It was *tough* to try and keep on top of things. I found it hard to keep up with learning the required vocabulary after being tired from work. I had a pretty low hour job.
However, a couple of my Chinese classmates managed to hold down restaurant jobs and keep up pretty well with the classes.
I guess it depends on how good you are at learning languages..
With regards to a level test, I wouldn't worry about that. The point of a level test is to put you in the appropriate level class. If you end up in a level too advanced for you you'll be stressed out of your mind, and it sucks being the weakest member of the class. You don't want to do 'well' in a level test, if 'well' means tricking the examiner into thinking you're better than you are. The big unis are pretty good at putting you in the right level class. Sure you might cover some things you already know, but I bet you won't know everything, and you'll be practising with other students who will also teach you a lot. You'll learn more from a class slightly below your level than one significantly above it, especially if you're working at the same time. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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The level test at Sogang is all oral. They have a series of questions they run through to see what grammar you have already learned. They get progressively harder until you can't keep up.
Placing in level 2 is quite easy so long as you have the basics down. If you want to place in level 3 you should be comfortable with quoted speech as it takes up a large chunk of level 2.
If you plan to go to Sogang, I'd suggest buying and completing their books if you haven't already. Make sure you learn the grammar/vocab they use as the upper levels build on the lower ones.
As for working at the same time. I did two semesters of just studying, but I'll be working from March onwards while studying. I planned to just work part-time, but my rent is a little more than it should be and I like not worrying about money. After 6 months you can legally work though, so if you're frugal and get a steady PT you should be okay. Or if you can find a light full-time it shouldn't be too bad as long as you have good time management skills.
The other good thing about the D4-4 is you're not limited to teaching positions. A lot of the students in the upper levels do editing/basic translation part-time. It's actually a lot easier to secure that kind of work when you're on a student visa. If you're doing that work full time you'd be on an E7 (I think) which is a lot harder to qualify for. |
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