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hatfiejl
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 Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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Hey guys I am new to the forum, and like most people I need advice. I am about to graduate college and I need help getting hired. Does anybody have any advice for someone just starting out? Thanks!
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sbp59
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Location: Somewhere in SK
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| hatfiejl wrote: |
Hey guys I am new to the forum, and like most people I need advice. I am about to graduate college and I need help getting hired. Does anybody have any advice for someone just starting out? Thanks!
(Sorry if this gets posted all of the time.) |
Easy to get hired but hard to find a good job.
Ask as many questions as possible and talk to current and past teachers of the school. |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| sbp59 wrote: |
| hatfiejl wrote: |
Hey guys I am new to the forum, and like most people I need advice. I am about to graduate college and I need help getting hired. Does anybody have any advice for someone just starting out? Thanks!
(Sorry if this gets posted all of the time.) |
Easy to get hired but hard to find a good job.
Ask as many questions as possible and talk to current and past teachers of the school. |
I only have been using the ESLCafe and applying through the companies who post on there, so is it possible to apply to a school directly? |
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sbp59
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Location: Somewhere in SK
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| hatfiejl wrote: |
| sbp59 wrote: |
| hatfiejl wrote: |
Hey guys I am new to the forum, and like most people I need advice. I am about to graduate college and I need help getting hired. Does anybody have any advice for someone just starting out? Thanks!
(Sorry if this gets posted all of the time.) |
Easy to get hired but hard to find a good job.
Ask as many questions as possible and talk to current and past teachers of the school. |
I only have been using the ESLCafe and applying through the companies who post on there, so is it possible to apply to a school directly? |
Yeah it's possible. The majority of posts on dave's job board are from recruiters but some individual schools still post jobs, you just have to be a detective in searching for them.
I got 2 different jobs in Korea from the job board without a recruiter so it's possible and both were decent experiences.
From my experience in finding jobs, bosses who can speak good English or lived overseas can post their own job opening. But, many others school owners use recruiters because they can't communicate very well with foreigners. Of course, that's not always the case. |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| sbp59 wrote: |
Yeah it's possible. The majority of posts on dave's job board are from recruiters but some individual schools still post jobs, you just have to be a detective in searching for them.
I got 2 different jobs in Korea from the job board without a recruiter so it's possible and both were decent experiences.
From my experience in finding jobs, bosses who can speak good English or lived overseas can post their own job opening. But, many others school owners use recruiters because they can't communicate very well with foreigners. Of course, that's not always the case. |
Oh ok, thanks. I guess I'm just worried I'm going about this the wrong way because I have only had a single reply to the many applications I've filled out/resumes I have submitted. I figured it was mostly because I won't have my bachelor's degree until May so I can't start ASAP. Is there anything else I can do to improve my chances in the mean time? |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Does anybody else have any more advice? I am just starting to apply so anything will help... |
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Dodge7
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| You want the truth? The market is totally saturated and jobs are hard to come by. Why don't you try to get a job in Ohio with whatever degree you graduate with first. |
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hatfiejl
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| It's complicated, but regardless I wouldn't make as much here. |
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jfromtheway
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| Spam, spam, spam the recruiters. I understand that there is a bit of oversaturation but as long as you're not hideous and willing to monkey yourself up, you don't have to worry. I would also advise you to move out of state and look for a job in the US before coming here, unless you have serious financial problems. It's not all that great here (not that Ohio is much better). If you choose otherwise, learn to work the system to your benefit instead of hiding in anonymous cowardice, and protecting a defunct and honorless system, as many of the people here tend to do. Good luck. |
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hatfiejl
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Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Spam, spam, spam the recruiters. I understand that there is a bit of oversaturation but as long as you're not hideous and willing to monkey yourself up, you don't have to worry. I would also advise you to move out of state and look for a job in the US before coming here, unless you have serious financial problems. It's not all that great here (not that Ohio is much better). If you choose otherwise, learn to work the system to your benefit instead of hiding in anonymous cowardice, and protecting a defunct and honorless system, as many of the people here tend to do. Good luck. |
Thanks. Could you explain what you mean by "hiding in anonymous cowardice, and protecting a defunct and honorless system"? I'm assuming someone who has worked/works there would know exactly what that means, but I don't. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Find out as much as you can about 2 main things before you come.
1. Teaching English to Koreans. This is the main reason you will be here, and this is what your employer will expect you to do. If you have no teaching experience, or no knowledge of how people acquire language, then you need to think very carefully about how you will help your students learn English. Just turning up and talking to them isn't enough. Recruiters often forget to mention this fundamental information, so be aware!
2. Living in Korea as a foreigner. Research, research, research. Read a wide variety of blogs, message boards, Korean English language newspapers. There is a *beep*-ton of information out there, and remember one important thing. Negative people love to complain online. Positive people don't usually bother because they're too busy having a good time. So don't take all the negative stories as gospel.
It's already been said, but make sure you research your potential employee. Find out as much information as you can about the school prior to signing and whenever possible, try to contact a current or previous teacher.
Keep an open-mind and be professional. It's very easy to have a great time in Korea! |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
Find out as much as you can about 2 main things before you come.
1. Teaching English to Koreans. This is the main reason you will be here, and this is what your employer will expect you to do. If you have no teaching experience, or no knowledge of how people acquire language, then you need to think very carefully about how you will help your students learn English. Just turning up and talking to them isn't enough. Recruiters often forget to mention this fundamental information, so be aware!
2. Living in Korea as a foreigner. Research, research, research. Read a wide variety of blogs, message boards, Korean English language newspapers. There is a *beep*-ton of information out there, and remember one important thing. Negative people love to complain online. Positive people don't usually bother because they're too busy having a good time. So don't take all the negative stories as gospel.
It's already been said, but make sure you research your potential employee. Find out as much information as you can about the school prior to signing and whenever possible, try to contact a current or previous teacher.
Keep an open-mind and be professional. It's very easy to have a great time in Korea! |
Thanks, and nice stache! |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| hatfiejl wrote: |
| Hey guys I am new to the forum, and like most people I need advice. I am about to graduate college and I need help getting hired. Does anybody have any advice for someone just starting out? Thanks! |
Get your documentation in order.
Until it is there is NOTHING you can really do to get hired.
Until you have the actual parchment in your hot little hands (some schools don't issue them for MONTHS after you finish your classes or until your convocation) there is nothing you can do to get hired.
ASK the registrars office when you get it then time your CBC application so that you get it back with the appostille about the same time that you get your parchment. THEN (and only then) you will be pretty much ready to start looking for a job.
READ. Read the faqs. Read the forums going back several YEARS (not just a few pages or months). There is a goldmine of information to help you avoid the minefield of problems that can and often do occur when working abroad.
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wings
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: CELTA |
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| Take a good (1 month) ESL teaching course, think CELTA, or a 120 course like Trinity TESOL. It will get you ready to teach, and help your resume stand out a bit from the other newbies. |
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hatfiejl
Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Getting Hired | Advice? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Get your documentation in order.
Until it is there is NOTHING you can really do to get hired.
Until you have the actual parchment in your hot little hands (some schools don't issue them for MONTHS after you finish your classes or until your convocation) there is nothing you can do to get hired.
ASK the registrars office when you get it then time your CBC application so that you get it back with the appostille about the same time that you get your parchment. THEN (and only then) you will be pretty much ready to start looking for a job.
READ. Read the faqs. Read the forums going back several YEARS (not just a few pages or months). There is a goldmine of information to help you avoid the minefield of problems that can and often do occur when working abroad. |
Thanks. Could you explain what the CBC application is exactly? |
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