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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:45 am Post subject: "We don't need you to do that." -Trayvon Martin Ca |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/20/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=us_c1
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Justice Department, FBI to probe Florida teen's death
Federal prosecutors and the FBI have opened an investigation into the killing of an unarmed teen by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Florida.
The death drew protesters Monday to the courthouse in Seminole County, north of Orlando, to demand justice for Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old who was shot and killed last month while walking back to his father's fiancee's house in Sanford.
The African-American teen's parents said Monday that they believed race was a factor in their son's death, and the Congressional Black Caucus had called for a federal investigation, saying local police have shown "blatant disregard for justice."
Late Monday, the Justice Department said it would dispatch officials to Sanford to investigate and "to address tension in the community."
Assistant State Attorney Pat Whitaker told the students it would take several weeks to look at the case, but that the "investigation of the Sanford police needs to be greatly supplemented," Jasmine Rand, the FAMU professor, said after the meeting.
The state attorney's office also said a voice analysis would be conducted on 911 calls from the night of the shooting to determine who was yelling for help, students said.
Zimmerman, 28, called police around nightfall on February 26 to report a suspicious man in his neighborhood.
"Something's wrong with him. Yep. He's coming to check me out," Zimmerman told a police dispatcher in a 911 call released Monday. "He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is. Send officers over here."
The teen started to run, Zimmerman reported. When he said he was following, the dispatcher told him, "We don't need you to do that."
Shortly afterward, neighbors began calling 911 to report a fight, then a gunshot. By the time police arrived, Trayvon lay dead. He was carrying a bag of Skittles and an iced tea that he had purchased at a nearby convenience store, and was headed back to his father's fiancee's home.
Martin said he's "positive" that it's his son's voice that can be heard screaming for help in the neighbors' calls.
"It's heart wrenching, because those actually were my son's last words," he said. "And to hear his last words being cries of help, is devastating. It tears me apart as a father." |
Seems to be the case of the week.
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Dave Chance
Joined: 30 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Man, gotta feel for the father...and the kid...what a way to go |
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bigverne
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�Mr. Zimmerman�s claim is that the confrontation was initiated by Trayvon,� Police Chief Bill Lee said in an interview. �I am not going into specifics of what led to the violent physical encounter witnessed by residents. All the physical evidence and testimony we have independent of what Mr. Zimmerman provides corroborates this claim to self-defense.�
To claim self-defense, someone has to show there was danger of great bodily harm or death, Lee said. �Zimmerman had injuries consistent with his story,� Lee said
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/2696446_p2/trayvon-martin-case.html#storylink=cpy |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Goes to show the problems with vigilantism. The last thing I want in my neighborhood is some untrained guy walking around with a tec-9 questioning people. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Kid was trying to get away from this nut. The story brought tears to my eyes. Better that this neighbohood ha hired private patrol. These citizen patrol things always attract the wanna-be cop types. A real tradgedy. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:39 am Post subject: |
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I'll hold full judgement until all facts are in, but as it seems, Zimmerman is dirty. Still, how did he get the injuries? As one person interviewed on CNN pointed out: All the boy had to do was answer the question as to why he was there and it probably wouldn't have escalated like it did. It is apparent exactly that conversation took place (by the dead kid's own girlfriend). I'm guessing that the kid shot didn't take kindly to being asked such a question and escalated things until a fight broke out. In fact, I'll bet that's exactly how it went down. If that is the case, then despite what Zimmerman did to follow the kid -- however stupid that was -- then legally, Zimmerman would have a leg to stand on if the kid turned on him and cracked him in the back of the head, for example.
Let's not forget that there is reportedly an unknown witness to this who hasn't said anything yet (so I've read, anyway).
The things that truly bug me about this case are:
1. Every picture we see of this unfortunate soul who was killed are of when he was like 14. We aren't allowed/shown photos of him that are recent. This supposedly little 17 year-old boy was reported to be over 6'3" tall.
2. The police either have some hard evidence they are not sharing, or they are trying to cover something up. (see #3)
3. It is not being widely reported, but I read that Zimmerman's father is a retired Virginia magistrate judge and his mother a court clerk.
4. The media bias in these stories is unprecedented. The one photo we get of Zimmerman is him in an orange jail jumpsuit. The photos we see of the "boy" who was killed show him as a bright, smiling 14 year-old in a football jersey.
5. Zimmerman is half Hispanic, yet some major media outlets refuse to cite this. He's as much of a minority as Obama is, in fact. Even more disgusting, the story angle went from being a black vs. white thing, to at least one black guest on a major news outlet saying that Zimmerman not being white didn't matter, because he represented white people being that he was from a gated community. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm really not a fan of Captain Corea's title.
Anyway, TNC at the Atlantic has been blogging about the Trayvon Martin case pretty regularly. He believes the investigation was a sham.
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Again, I don't know that Zimmerman will ever do a lick of jail time, or even see a court room. But what angers people is not simply that Zimmerman might get off, but that the Sanford police would conduct a shoddy investigation, claim it was thorough, and then claim that all who objected were compromised by prejudice:
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| Our investigation is color blind and based on the facts and circumstances, not color. I know I can say that until I am blue in the face, but, as a white man in a uniform, I know it doesn't mean anything to anybody. |
This investigation wasn't one. It was a sham, an homage to the bad old days of Southern justice. Lee should resign. |
Read the full post in the link for his argument. |
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Swampfox10mm
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