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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:56 am Post subject: |
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I keep my facebook profile clean enough for my mom, grandmother, and little brother to view. I would have no issue giving a login for a nice job, as long as I were allowed to change it after they poked around. I'd, of course, want them to look through it with me there, so that I were able to change it immediately after. I have nothing to hide.
As for personal messages, I clean those out on a regular basis, keeping only messages with important information that I may need to reference later.
This isn't news. It's been going on for a while, now. Be aware of it, and keep your profile clean, or, if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. Easy peasy. |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I keep my facebook profile clean enough for my mom, grandmother, and little brother to view. I would have no issue giving a login for a nice job, as long as I were allowed to change it after they poked around. I'd, of course, want them to look through it with me there, so that I were able to change it immediately after. I have nothing to hide.
As for personal messages, I clean those out on a regular basis, keeping only messages with important information that I may need to reference later.
This isn't news. It's been going on for a while, now. Be aware of it, and keep your profile clean, or, if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. Easy peasy. |
This is a great example of one reason why people of nations deserve to be under a police state type control. They accept it. Little by little, inch by inch, people are accepting losing control of their lives and privacy. And one knows that 'having nothing to hide' is irrelevant. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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brickabrack wrote: |
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I keep my facebook profile clean enough for my mom, grandmother, and little brother to view. I would have no issue giving a login for a nice job, as long as I were allowed to change it after they poked around. I'd, of course, want them to look through it with me there, so that I were able to change it immediately after. I have nothing to hide.
As for personal messages, I clean those out on a regular basis, keeping only messages with important information that I may need to reference later.
This isn't news. It's been going on for a while, now. Be aware of it, and keep your profile clean, or, if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. Easy peasy. |
This is a great example of one reason why people of nations deserve to be under a police state type control. They accept it. Little by little, inch by inch, people are accepting losing control of their lives and privacy. And one knows that 'having nothing to hide' is irrelevant. |
Did you miss what she said?
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if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. |
This kills two birds with one stone. Not only do you keep your privacy but you get a job you want. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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The real question though is where would it stop. Also it violates federal law as the company and the person being interviewed are knowingly breaking Facebooks terms of service, which breaks federal law laid out in the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
Job candidates who share their Facebook password with prospective employers are violating the Facebook Terms of Service and employers who use such passwords to gain unauthorized access are also violating the Terms of Service. In the United States, these actions may constitute criminal offenses under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act [see 18 USC � 1030(a)(2)(C)] and are punishable by fines and up to 1 year in prison. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act also mandates the forfeiture of property "used or intended to be used to commit or to facilitate the commission of any violation."
Here's the terms of service
"You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account."
"You will not transfer your account (including any page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission."
"You will not transfer any of your rights or obligations under this Statement to anyone else without our consent."
https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
Why work for an unethical company. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm very open about Facebook sharing, and really have noting to hide, but there is no bloody way I'd let a prospective employer have my password.
I'd walk out as soon as they'd mention it. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Leon wrote: |
Job candidates who share their Facebook password with prospective employers are violating the Facebook Terms of Service and employers who use such passwords to gain unauthorized access are also violating the Terms of Service. In the United States, these actions may constitute criminal offenses under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act [see 18 USC � 1030(a)(2)(C)] and are punishable by fines and up to 1 year in prison. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act also mandates the forfeiture of property "used or intended to be used to commit or to facilitate the commission of any violation."
Here's the terms of service
"You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account."
"You will not transfer your account (including any page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission."
"You will not transfer any of your rights or obligations under this Statement to anyone else without our consent."
https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
Why work for an unethical company. |
Wins the thread. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Can I have the company credit card number? Just so I can trust I'll get paid. |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
brickabrack wrote: |
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I keep my facebook profile clean enough for my mom, grandmother, and little brother to view. I would have no issue giving a login for a nice job, as long as I were allowed to change it after they poked around. I'd, of course, want them to look through it with me there, so that I were able to change it immediately after. I have nothing to hide.
As for personal messages, I clean those out on a regular basis, keeping only messages with important information that I may need to reference later.
This isn't news. It's been going on for a while, now. Be aware of it, and keep your profile clean, or, if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. Easy peasy. |
This is a great example of one reason why people of nations deserve to be under a police state type control. They accept it. Little by little, inch by inch, people are accepting losing control of their lives and privacy. And one knows that 'having nothing to hide' is irrelevant. |
Did you miss what she said? NOPE.
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if that's too difficult, set up a second profile with the email that you use for job interviews. |
This kills two birds with one stone. Not only do you keep your privacy but you get a job you want. |
YOU DON'T KEEP YOUR PRIVACY AND WHY WOULD YOU 'WANT' TO WORK FOR AN ORG. WITH SUCH PRACTICES? |
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cwflaneur
Joined: 04 Aug 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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brickabrack wrote: |
AND WHY WOULD YOU 'WANT' TO WORK FOR AN ORG. WITH SUCH PRACTICES? |
Unemployment might be one of several reasons I can think of.
For job hunting use an email address that isn't associated with any FB account at all, I say. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:05 am Post subject: |
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It really does depend on the job. I don't see how hard it is to make a fake facebook profile before starting the job search. Be prepared. Sheesh.
I knew about this years ago. My profile is clean. Do I like this policy? Of course not. That doesn't mean that there aren't workarounds. If your resumes use the same email, change your resume or change your facebook login email. Is that so difficult? A second account isn't that hard to make. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:08 am Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
It really does depend on the job. I don't see how hard it is to make a fake facebook profile before starting the job search. Be prepared. Sheesh.
I knew about this years ago. My profile is clean. Do I like this policy? Of course not. That doesn't mean that there aren't workarounds. If your resumes use the same email, change your resume or change your facebook login email. Is that so difficult? A second account isn't that hard to make. |
Is it difficult to cede privacy unlawfully to an employer. Yes, it's too difficult for me. |
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radcon
Joined: 23 May 2011
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:44 am Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
It really does depend on the job. I don't see how hard it is to make a fake facebook profile before starting the job search. Be prepared. Sheesh.
I knew about this years ago. My profile is clean. Do I like this policy? Of course not. That doesn't mean that there aren't workarounds. If your resumes use the same email, change your resume or change your facebook login email. Is that so difficult? A second account isn't that hard to make. |
And then when that company digs through your fake facebook account and feels that there isnt much activity and they realize that this was a dummy account, they definitely wont give you the job for being a sneaky liar. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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radcon wrote: |
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
It really does depend on the job. I don't see how hard it is to make a fake facebook profile before starting the job search. Be prepared. Sheesh.
I knew about this years ago. My profile is clean. Do I like this policy? Of course not. That doesn't mean that there aren't workarounds. If your resumes use the same email, change your resume or change your facebook login email. Is that so difficult? A second account isn't that hard to make. |
And then when that company digs through your fake facebook account and feels that there isnt much activity and they realize that this was a dummy account, they definitely wont give you the job for being a sneaky liar. |
Clearly you never had parents who read your diary. I had a "dummy diary" that I wrote in once a week and kept under my mattress, and kept the real one hidden in the rafters of my treehouse. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Kuros wrote: |
Leon wrote: |
Job candidates who share their Facebook password with prospective employers are violating the Facebook Terms of Service and employers who use such passwords to gain unauthorized access are also violating the Terms of Service. In the United States, these actions may constitute criminal offenses under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act [see 18 USC � 1030(a)(2)(C)] and are punishable by fines and up to 1 year in prison. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act also mandates the forfeiture of property "used or intended to be used to commit or to facilitate the commission of any violation."
Here's the terms of service
"You will not share your password, (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account."
"You will not transfer your account (including any page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission."
"You will not transfer any of your rights or obligations under this Statement to anyone else without our consent."
https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
Why work for an unethical company. |
Wins the thread. |
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