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Son Deureo!
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 Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: Filipina has shot at seat in the SK National Assembly |
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OK, she's a naturalized Korean citizen, but this still has the potential to make Korean history.
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Filipino woman runs for seat on South Korean parliament
By Jerome Aning
Philippine Daily Inquirer
8:31 pm | Saturday, March 31st, 2012
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MANILA, Philippines�The Filipino community in South Korea is rallying behind the candidacy of a Filipino woman who is running for a parliament seat in the East Asian country, Vice President Jejomar Binay said Saturday.
Binay said he hopes Jasmine Lee, a Filipino married to a Korean national, would have a strong showing in the race as it �gives hope not only for Filipinos but for all migrants and immigrants.�
�We are all very proud that a full-blooded Filipino is being given the opportunity to be a member of the Korean Parliament. It shows that Korea is prepared to extend the opportunity to become a public servant even to those who were not born there,� the vice president said in a statement.
Binay said if elected, Lee �will be an advocate not only of Filipino workers� rights, but the rights of all migrants in South Korea.�
Lee is a popular television host, and heads the Global Resource Center (GRC) in the South Korean capital Seoul. GRC is a non-governmental organization serving as a support group for foreign wives of Koreans.
She became a naturalized Korean in 1998, three years after she married Lee Dongho, and moved to South Korea.
The ruling Saenuri (New Frontier) Party included her on the list of 46 candidates for seats in the unicameral National Assembly which are allocated for proportional representation and would be filled up in an election on April 11.
Saenuri is chaired by assemblywoman Park Geun-hye, daughter of the late Korean president Park Chung-hee.
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http://globalnation.inquirer.net/31289/filipino-woman-runs-for-seat-on-south-korean-parliament
This article (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/03/116_107308.html) includes an explanation of the proportional representational scheme and where Jasmine Lee stands in it. I'm not sure how Saenuri is polling for this year's election, but she is in the upper half of their slate (17/46).
And surprise, surprise, there is a backlash against her. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/04/02/12/anti-multicultural-group-korea-criticizes-pinay-candidate |
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bobbyhanlon
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| if she's 17th on the list, then its almost certain that she'll get in. opinion polls are predicting saenuri will get 24-25 seats from the party list, even after the surveillance scandal. it would take a big turnaround for jasmine lee not to become a member of the national assembly now. |
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Nismo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Great to see potential diversity, unfortunate that she's saenuri. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Thought I just heard of a scandal about her...something about her lying about her education. |
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Kimchifart
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Thought I just heard of a scandal about her...something about her lying about her education. |
It explains it in the article. |
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litebear
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alongway
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| litebear wrote: |
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/356831/filipino-jasmine-lee-makes-history-wins-south-korea-election
She got elected  |
No, she was appointed by the party. She didn't run any campaign and defeat an opponent and receive a mandate from the people to serve them. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| alongway wrote: |
| litebear wrote: |
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/356831/filipino-jasmine-lee-makes-history-wins-south-korea-election
She got elected |
No, she was appointed by the party. She didn't run any campaign and defeat an opponent and receive a mandate from the people to serve them. |
Ah the beauty that is proportional representation. While I have no comment on other countries, let's hope Canada never adopts such a policy. People being put on a list by party operatives is not superior to the idea of people winning nominations for the right to represent their parties in an election. But, some diversity in Korea is probably a good thing. No doubt she will have to fight and be seen as effective in order to have credibility and keep her job. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| litebear wrote: |
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/356831/filipino-jasmine-lee-makes-history-wins-south-korea-election
She got elected |
No, she was appointed by the party. She didn't run any campaign and defeat an opponent and receive a mandate from the people to serve them. |
Ah the beauty that is proportional representation. While I have no comment on other countries, let's hope Canada never adopts such a policy. People being put on a list by party operatives is not superior to the idea of people winning nominations for the right to represent their parties in an election. But, some diversity in Korea is probably a good thing. No doubt she will have to fight and be seen as effective in order to have credibility and keep her job. |
True but being able to look out into a legislature and being able to see 4,5, or even 10 different parties is a lot better than looking out and seeing the same two you've seen since the days of Teddy Roosevelt. |
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litebear
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| alongway wrote: |
| litebear wrote: |
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/356831/filipino-jasmine-lee-makes-history-wins-south-korea-election
She got elected |
No, she was appointed by the party. She didn't run any campaign and defeat an opponent and receive a mandate from the people to serve them. |
Ah the beauty that is proportional representation. While I have no comment on other countries, let's hope Canada never adopts such a policy. People being put on a list by party operatives is not superior to the idea of people winning nominations for the right to represent their parties in an election. But, some diversity in Korea is probably a good thing. No doubt she will have to fight and be seen as effective in order to have credibility and keep her job. |
True but being able to look out into a legislature and being able to see 4,5, or even 10 different parties is a lot better than looking out and seeing the same two you've seen since the days of Teddy Roosevelt. |
I would like to see more PR in the UK. In the last UK general election the Scottish results were pretty interesting. The conservative party (who I would never vote for personally) got around 450,000 votes across Scotland but only got 1 seat...the Labour Party got just over double that amount and got 41 seats, I don't think that is a fair representation of what how the voting population of Scotland wants to be represented. I think it actually starts to discourage voters who feel that their vote is worthless depending on where they are located. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Voting for individual candidates is more worthwhile if the candidates themselves tend to be more independent (i.e. don't tow the party line). If they are little more than a rubber stamp, then why bother voting for individuals and not parties? (Though there is still the issue of regionalism, where, for example, members of Congress will join with their other party members from the same state/region to represent a regional issue like farm policy or water rights). At least with PR I could vote for a 3rd or 4th or 8th party that is more closely aligned with my interests instead of having to choose between the lesser of two or three evils. |
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alongway
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
Ah the beauty that is proportional representation. While I have no comment on other countries, let's hope Canada never adopts such a policy. People being put on a list by party operatives is not superior to the idea of people winning nominations for the right to represent their parties in an election. But, some diversity in Korea is probably a good thing. No doubt she will have to fight and be seen as effective in order to have credibility and keep her job. |
I'm neither here nor there on which system is superior, but people claiming she was elected is doing a disservice to elections. Not one person in the country cast a vote in her name. As for the job she'll do, she'd do well to remember there are more migrants here than women, and male migrants for most of it really aren't any better off than the women. |
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NohopeSeriously
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: |
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The proportional system works the best if a country has a bicameral parliament. South Korea doesn't.
| litebear wrote: |
| I think it actually starts to discourage voters who feel that their vote is worthless depending on where they are located. |
That's like South Korea right now.
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| I'm neither here nor there on which system is superior, but people claiming she was elected is doing a disservice to elections. Not one person in the country cast a vote in her name. As for the job she'll do, she'd do well to remember there are more migrants here than women, and male migrants for most of it really aren't any better off than the women. |
My biggest concern is that she could be losing her motivation. She's a dedicated activist type of person. The migrant population issue in Korea is a very minor issue. I'm more worried that she could be neglected within the Saenuri leadership.
Plus. I don't think she could represent the generic NETs and temporary foreign male workers in Korea. She always has been interested in issues related to South East Asian women (with rural traditionalist Korean husbands). |
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northway
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Multi-member proportional is a nice middle ground. You still get to vote for the face in your district, but if you want to support a party that you agree with ideologically you can (even if they have no shot in your home district). |
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alongway
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
The proportional system works the best if a country has a bicameral parliament. South Korea doesn't.
| litebear wrote: |
| I think it actually starts to discourage voters who feel that their vote is worthless depending on where they are located. |
That's like South Korea right now.
| alongway wrote: |
| I'm neither here nor there on which system is superior, but people claiming she was elected is doing a disservice to elections. Not one person in the country cast a vote in her name. As for the job she'll do, she'd do well to remember there are more migrants here than women, and male migrants for most of it really aren't any better off than the women. |
My biggest concern is that she could be losing her motivation. She's a dedicated activist type of person. The migrant population issue in Korea is a very minor issue. I'm more worried that she could be neglected within the Saenuri leadership.
Plus. I don't think she could represent the generic NETs and temporary foreign male workers in Korea. She always has been interested in issues related to South East Asian women (with rural traditionalist Korean husbands). |
She has, but there are still plenty of males who move here as migrants. Long term immigrant workers who may eventually move their families here, NETs who marry Korean women, migrant families who move here otherwise. There is the likelihood that some of the things she may try to change to help SE asian women would also benefit them as a whole, but in the past they have always applied all the new laws across the board. They took time to catch up for other genders/countries of origin/etc
For those NETs who think they are having a hard time navigating the new F6 requirements after getting married they should have a gander at what some SE asian women have to actually do to get the same visa. I ran across a page, I'll see if I can find it again, while looking for info on here that mentioned what a filipina bride has to provide to get their visa. It's head and shoulders beyond what a NET has to. Medical checks for the woman and police checks on both sides (just found it)
http://www.buhaykorea.com/2012/03/26/f6-1-korean-spouse-visa/
I think she'd be more effective and do more for the party campaigning for the rights of all migrants. If not maybe they'll need to add some long-term western expat who gets citizenship next time around to cover all their bases. |
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