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Dave Chance
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 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: Latin baseball manager learns the meaning of US democracy |
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-ozzie-guillen-conference-20120410,0,2311048.story
Ozzie Guillen accepted full responsibility for his comments about Fidel Castro and expressed extreme regret and embarrassment during a press conference at Marlins Park on Tuesday morning.
Speaking moments after his five-game suspension was announced by the Miami Marlins, Guillen said he did not mean to say he loved and respected the Cuban dictator in a Time magazine interview.
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: |
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First off, no longer a ball player.
Secondly, he's said a lot of stupid things in the past, and this isn't his first public apology.
Third, he's the newly hired manager of a recently rebranded franchise in a city dominated by Cuban Americans.
As much as you seem to be trying to make this a freedom of speech issue, it's not. I wonder where your socialist loving heart would have sided when Ozzie called Jay Mariotti a faggot. This is a case of an extremely unprofessional individual seeing the chickens coming home to roost. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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No u right, he's a manager now.
However, Socialist in itself isn't a bad term.
It may be that Guillen has a history of verbal faux pas.
But if he wants to express his opinion, he's supposedly free to do so. |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Chance wrote: |
No u right, he's a manager now.
However, Socialist in itself isn't a bad term.
It may be that Guillen has a history of verbal faux pas.
But if he wants to express his opinion, he's supposedly free to do so. |
No, he's not. He works for a private enterprise for which public perception is extremely important (especially considering that it's stadium deal is under investigation and everyone hates its owner). This is like if the ROK national soccer team got a new manager who rolled in and proceeded to proclaim his love of the Kims. Guillen is a liability, and the inevitable break in the Loria-Ozzie relationship looks like it might be happening before anyone expected. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Not really speaking from the business side of things, you gather.
But if it gets this much of a rise outta ya, maybe his hiring was worth it 
Naw, just kidding, don't be so sore. If u really are that enraged and bothered, I'll delete this so's u can sleep better.
Deal? |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I'm doing just fine,nim just amused by the fact that you seem to have no idea what the underlying issues are here yet proceed as if this is some attack on free speech. If I go into work tomorrow and call my student's mom fat and ugly to her face, am I protected from punishment due to my right to say whatever I want?
On edit: Michael Rosenberg has a good piece over at CNNSI:
http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/michael_rosenberg/04/10/guillen.petrino/index.html?sct=mlb_t11_a0
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I know the Marlins were cheap the past few years, but I assumed they paid for a decent Internet connection. This is who Ozzie Guillen is. He says crazy things ALL THE TIME. If you sit in the man's office for 15 minutes, you are guaranteed to hear at least one inappropriate comment and laugh at least three times.
Guillen is the guy who called columnist Jay Mariotti a homophobic slur and called fellow Venezuelan Magglio Ordonez, his former White Sox star, "a piece of (expletive)." When he tried to take the high road in a dispute with former closer Bobby Jenks, he said "I wish I was mad about it because I will rip his throat [out]." Even his no-comments are controversial. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Could be regarding Cuba he knows exactly what the underlying issues are and meant to comment on them.
But here�s the thing: Guillen got something right about Castro. And that something is the very reason he�s in trouble.
It�s correct that Castro, against long odds, has defied US efforts to oust or kill him for decades. There was the hapless US-sponsored invasion (Bay of Pigs), the crackpot schemes (exploding sea shells intended for his diving spots), and straightforward economic pressure (economic embargoes).
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/DC-Decoder/2012/0410/What-Ozzie-Guillen-got-right-about-Fidel-Castro
Nowadays if you wanted to go into work and call your boss a cheatin' liar for pilfering part of your wages you'd be perfectly free to, whereas back in the Middle Ages you perhaps wouldn't be able to.
Ironically u resemble Guillen with your socialist/nim name calling  |
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