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S. Korea's ruling party pulls off upset victory
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Chance wrote:
Re Falco

He comes off as someone similar to Captain and Fermentation, who lack basic skills of reasoning and analysis, and mistake banding together as hooligans do for courage and manliness.

Don't stray too far from your peer group, you might learrn something.


I've called you out a every turn on your BS. I don't need to stand with people for strength - it's just that your posting style tuns people off. Perhaps if you dropped the name calling and such you'd actually get people to read some of your off-topic rants.

But tell ya what, you, motiontodismiss, and nohopeseriously can team up against me and these supposed "hooligans - I know which time I'd lay money on.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/world/asia/park-geun-hye-an-unsoiled-leader-in-south-koreas-rowdy-democracy.html?_r=2&ref=world

A good NY Times article I just read.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Backlashes against Park Guen Hye is suddenly heating up within the Saenuri Party.

We have Kim Mun Su who represents the reorganized conservative faction against Park Guen Hye.

The ever-lameducking Lee Myung Bak government wouldn't help the general conservative scene in Korea.
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/04/116_109513.html

A fresh corruption scandal involving two of Lee Myung-bak�s key aides was poised to deal a serious blow to the lame duck President during his 10 months left in office.

The revelation came amid Lee�s falling approval ratings after a series of corruption scandals involving his aides and relatives, including his brother, tarnished the image of his administration.

Choi See-joong, former chairman of the Korea Communications Commission (KCC), and Park Young-joon, former deputy prime minister (2009-2010), allegedly received an astronomical amount of money from a businessman in return for issuing a permit to develop a posh southern Seoul area.

According to the prosecution, the businessman identified only by his surname Lee stated that he had given a total of 6.1 billion won of cash to Choi and Park from 2004 to 2008 through a broker.

In an interview, Choi, 75, admitted he had received money from the businessman through a broker, until recently since 2004.

The former KCC chairman, who is known as President Lee�s mentor, said he received money during the 2007 presidential campaign season and used part of the money to finance public opinion surveys.

His admission apparently embarrassed President Lee as he had said on several occasions earlier that he had not received a dime from businesspeople to finance his presidential campaign in an effort to stress his administration�s ethical soundness.

Given his previous remarks, his mentor�s surprising confession is likely to deal a serious blow to Lee regarding his ethics.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NohopeSeriously wrote:
Backlashes against Park Guen Hye is suddenly heating up within the Saenuri Party.

We have Kim Mun Su who represents the reorganized conservative faction against Park Guen Hye.

The ever-lameducking Lee Myung Bak government wouldn't help the general conservative scene in Korea.


Pathetic.

Not one mention of the leadership troubles on the Left?

Utter bias.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Dave Chance wrote:
Re Falco

He comes off as someone similar to Captain and Fermentation, who lack basic skills of reasoning and analysis, and mistake banding together as hooligans do for courage and manliness.

Don't stray too far from your peer group, you might learrn something.


I've called you out a every turn on your BS. I don't need to stand with people for strength - it's just that your posting style tuns people off. Perhaps if you dropped the name calling and such you'd actually get people to read some of your off-topic rants.


I'm starting to think Chance is a troll or just has really misguided notions about what he's doing. He's not winning anybody over for sure. Look at his posts in the other sections. I'd be a bit more accepting of his trolling if he kept it nice and tidy in one thread instead of starting a new one every time he thinks of a new criticism of the US. I've given up on actually getting answers from this guy. The funny thing is he actually quoted Falco in another thread as if he's garnering support for his posts but then immediately turns on him when Falco doesn't blindly believe in what he says.

Oon a fundamental level I am actually somewhat on the same page as him. I don't love North Korea like he seems to but I am pretty damn critical of the US and Korean governments. He just needs to stop responding like a child.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm all for being critical of governments....and especially politicians, but to me, that critical eye is best served looking at all aspects. Just saying that A is bad, while ignoring B, damages the message, IMO.
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Dave Chance wrote:
Re Falco

He comes off as someone similar to Captain and Fermentation, who lack basic skills of reasoning and analysis, and mistake banding together as hooligans do for courage and manliness.

Don't stray too far from your peer group, you might learrn something.


I've called you out a every turn on your BS. I don't need to stand with people for strength - it's just that your posting style tuns people off. Perhaps if you dropped the name calling and such you'd actually get people to read some of your off-topic rants.


I'm starting to think Chance is a troll or just has really misguided notions about what he's doing. He's not winning anybody over for sure. Look at his posts in the other sections. I'd be a bit more accepting of his trolling if he kept it nice and tidy in one thread instead of starting a new one every time he thinks of a new criticism of the US. I've given up on actually getting answers from this guy. The funny thing is he actually quoted Falco in another thread as if he's garnering support for his posts but then immediately turns on him when Falco doesn't blindly believe in what he says.

Oon a fundamental level I am actually somewhat on the same page as him. I don't love North Korea like he seems to but I am pretty damn critical of the US and Korean governments. He just needs to stop responding like a child.


Look, rule number 1 is if you're going to call out the US gov't on all the trouble they're stirring up and have swept under the rug, you're going to take some heat; our gov't's done a good job inculcating certain attitudes and notions that become threatened when cracks in the structure are pointed out.

Being quiet about things amounts to being complicit not only in all the stuff going down in non-OECD countries, but also results in supporting the institutions (all they need is silent obedience to operate) which are rapidly transforming the states and everywhere else into a place where people can barely manage to get by, nevermind harbor hopes to buy a house or raise a family without major worries/reservations.

I'll admit I stepped on your toes a bit after u, shall we say, ended up making an alternative interpretation of facts/figures and statements issued by a government investigative panel. You've also made the common error of equating a discussion of US/ROK atrocities with 'love' for NK. It's more of a case that I'm tired of all the killing/oppression/meddling in more than a few countries that our gov't's gotten up to and gotten away with, and know that if we made them more accountable we'd all have a greater chance of creating a better future.

But getting into it with you is really a thing of the past as far as I'm concerned.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice little ramble about the US, man. And I'm all for that discussion.

But take a moment out to look at the topic of this thread. Can you see it?
Now, can you understand why ppl might think you're trying to push an agenda?
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Dave Chance



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show me a man with no agenda and I'll show you a man with no purpose or backbone. I'll also show you a man with a different agenda, one which results in maintaining the present environment.

The world and its resources are going down the drain before our eyes. I'm not going to stand idly by so that people won't say x,y, or z.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you figure that spreading your "agenda" in topics that are not focused on that agenda... is a good thing? Come on, man. No one is disputing the argument for discussing the US and its policies... but this may not be the best thread for it.

Is that really that tough to agree with?
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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't start this agenda topic, another poster did. So maybe u can address your concerns to him.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started his topic.

Me.

And it was about the local election here in Sk... and it's possible impact on the upcoming presidential election.


The title and Op are fairly clear on that.
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falco



Joined: 26 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks a certain poster, (who has been known to support the zenophobic rantings of left leaning political groups in a certain small Asian country), has the anterior division of his body (ie. the part that is opposite the feet and supported by the shoulders), so far up the posterior opening of his alimentary canal (ie. the cecum and colon leading to the posterior opening of the alimentary rectum cavity), that he is unable to even distinguish who are the authors of certain internet postings even when personally addressing the writer of the post he's currently concerned with.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Pathetic.

Not one mention of the leadership troubles on the Left?

Utter bias.


The leadership crisis on the Korean Left has been continuously existed for decades. Leadership crisis isn't the biggest problem. The Right has more problems with anything leadership-related.

It's a good news that the Right is slowly collapsing. Very Happy
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