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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emark wrote:
If I understand your situation, it's a little like this.

You are a SMOE / government teacher. The guy in the other class is not. After school programs are private enterprises that go into public schools and convince the school administration to symbiotically work together to bring a higher level English to the students of the school. After school programs cannot get "school" or "education" status, thus the need to use the public school and it's status and business licence.

I could say more, but I won't. I will cut all that short by saying this.

Congratulations on giving your free labor to the after school program. I am so sure that the guy next door looks at you as a sucker that doesn't know the reality of the situation.

I'd politely tell them that you are employed by SMOE and even though you are working at the school, you're not responsible for the private enterprises of ESL businessmen.

... unless of course they want to slip you some cash under the table (kidding) don't do that either!

Enjoy your afternoons taking care of yourself and your responsibilities to your EMPLOYER.


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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

posnew wrote:
I thought that anything over 22 hours with SMOE was considered overtime.


It is. But that's not the issue here. OP never said s/he isn't getting paid overtime for SMOE classes. S/he's saying that the after school teacher (not part of SMOE) is asking for extra help (for no pay)...on top of the fact that s/he's maxed out on OT hours.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rule of thumb is as follows.

If I am required to:

  1. be in a certain place
  2. at a certain time
  3. for a specific interaction with students


then that is teaching.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is during the school time then OP ought to do it whether he gets paid for it or not. Afterall, the OP does care about the learning of students, no? Teaching is a 24/7 job anyway. I live in an apartment block. My students live nexr door to left, two doors down to right and above me. On the balcony I can see more than a dozen of my students living in the next block. If I light up a cigarette on the balconey they call to their moms and dads: look! English teacher smoking! I blame Mahatma Gandhi for setting the bar way too high. "My life is an Example."! bah humbug.
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