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allan of asia
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Here, there, everywhere
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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OP I admire your forward thinking but the number of people who have dogs and live in apartments is sad, big or small dogs - the size of apartments here is so small it is IMHO just plain selfish of people to have dogs in Korea unless you do like the OP wants, one of those houses with a yard. - you are out all day leaving them inside and probably barking out of loneliness driving your neighbours crazy too. My old upstairs neighbour had a dog that whined in excess of 12 hours a day and I reported her to the Gu office for anti social behaviour...
I do see a lot of people with bigger dogs in Haebangcheon but I have no idea what they do with them - places are bigger there and maybe the people round there are more "flexible" - I am no animal lover and would never have a dog or cat i my house as I think its quite frankly unhygienic to have pets in your home. However OP I commend thinking of the conditions for any dogs before you get them, too many of the expats in Korea DONT THINK BEYOND THE YEAR they are here and then have to rehome or dump their pets...either of which is unsettling for the animal. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Do you recommend two or one dog--if accommodating both is not problematic financially or space-wise?
Sorry, I'm off topic again, but generally curious since I don't have a dog yet and China's policy was brought up.
Wouldn't having more than one dog actually be healthier for the dog and the family? Why'd they make a one-dog policy instead of promoting two? I thought most dogs (esp. smaller breeds) are usually better if they grow up, live, and are trained in pairs being that the owners can't be there 24-7, no? |
Yep, sorry to continue to be off-topic as well, but wth.....I'd agree that a companion is healthy if the dog has to spend long amounts of time alone. I had 3 medium-large sized dogs back in the States at one time (a friend adopted one and the other 2 were taken in by my immediate family when I left to go to Korea). I would like for Gator to have a friend, but I do well just to have him (the wife is flippy-floppy). He is adjusted well enough by being an only dog. We work different schedules and he has company a lot of the time. If it was up to me, I'd take all of the GPs from that kennel that came from his parents, but that just isn't going to fly in this household.
Not sure about little dogs. My family did rescue for a long time and it was a mixed bag. Some tended to thrive in packs, while others wanted to be an only dog. It didn't seem to be that case with larger dogs. They were just happy regardless. |
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thunderbird
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| oh man koreans r afraid of big dogs, like really big dogs or even something like a shep, if u have a big dog u can bring him over but expect some scares n some coments |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Koreans have an irrational fear of SMALL dogs, too. I think it's funny. I don't know if I'm offending them, but there have been a few times where I see the overdramatic reaction of, "무서워!!!!!!!" and I just can't help but crack up at the person as they cower at a tiny yorkshire terrier walking on a leash in the park. It's not a "foreigner" thing to laugh, either - My wife laughs just as much. I mean really, it's absolutely ridiculous.
But, to be honest, my impression is that Korean dog owners don't do a very good job. My two very gentle daughters love dogs, and either the owners don't trust my very docile children to appropriately pet their animals, or the owners are scared that the dogs have a bad temperament. From all outward appearances (as judged by someone who has a natural affinity to canines), the dogs and my children would have a very nice interaction. There is no indication on either side that my children or the dogs are scared, and if they were I would keep my girls clear. I guess Korean dog owners have a just as irrational fear of children! Hah! |
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rkc76sf
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
| Koreans have an irrational fear of SMALL dogs, too. I think it's funny.! |
Yep, our pug's bark is way worse than his bite, if he did bite you, he wouldn't even break the skin, yet some people are scared to death of him when he barks at them. Really funny. Does anyone remember the German Shepherd in Itaewon, some Middle Eastern guy used to have one and you'd occasionally see him walking the dog. Me and my wife were talking about them before, they both just kind of lumbered around- kind of funny in that their personalities seemed to be the same, not paying much attention to anyone or anything. That was six years ago, though. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| The wife and I have two large dogs (70-80 lbs. each) and while it is challenging, our schedules, their training, and the natural temperament of the breed make it work and they're healthy, happy dogs. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| The wife and I have two large dogs (70-80 lbs. each) and while it is challenging, our schedules, their training, and the natural temperament of the breed make it work and they're healthy, happy dogs. |
Would you mind sharing some specifics of how you trained them, what breed they are that makes their temperament manageable, and what your living situation is like? I realize this might be a lot to type, but anything would be greatly appreciated. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Don't let the size of the apartments and the naysayers get you down...
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you.
This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. - Mark Twain |
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DomAndJenny
Joined: 21 Nov 2011
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:38 am Post subject: |
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OP, my fiance and I moved here 3 months ago with our large dog in tow. She is an boxer mix and it has its perks and its restrictions. We have had her for almost 3 years and did not think when we first got her that we would be moving so far away. I brought her from Canada, which was stressful leading up to the trip but the actual travel part was fine because of our preparation, if you plan to leave with her.
She is fine in the apartment, she was raised in apartments. She needs 60 mins of good exercise a day, which when you are looking to get a dog, in my opinion, an excuse to go out for a walk everyday or twice a day is part of the decision and the fun of owning a dog. She gets a little cabin fever if she isn't walked for a couple of days, but it was the same way in Canada. There have been a couple mornings where we get up at 5:30 am, head down to a river nearby and throw the ball to her in the field. She loves to get that kind of exercise. Would our lives be easier without having to worry about the dog? Yes. But the answer to that question is the same no matter what country you are living in I think. At the end of the day, she is happy and comfortable. We get mixed reactions, some people are afraid, many don't care and some are very interested. She has a few friends in the building that stop and say hello to her.
We have not gone out on an overnight trip yet because of the dog. We might rent a car sometime to get out of the city and take her. We have found a vet that will board her, and have had people offer to look after her. I am just nervous to leave her. I don't know if that is me being over protective or not. That has been a major drawback so far.
If the dog is well trained, well adjusted and well exercised it can live quite happily in an apartment regardless of size. So to sum up, the dog is happy, we are happy to have her because we love her but she does come with her restrictions, more so because of her size. We need to be back to take to the bathroom, walk her, or just hang out with her for so long everyday. But then again, if we did not want to do these things we wouldn't have gotten a dog. We had the same restrictions in Canada.
All that being said, it would probably be way way easier if we had a small dog, like a dacshund. |
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kmwg19
Joined: 02 Feb 2012
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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OP I have a Golden here and we live in a rural area in a small apartment. We are soon moving to Seoul though. Reactions are mixed - excited to meet her, calm and kind, or crazy screaming scared. She converts many scared people or people who don't like her much as she is so calm and quiet. You will have no problems that you can't tackle so long as you have the conviction to work on it. I created a post on my blog about our pup actually on having a dog in Korea. I cover everything from what to expect to where to buy things. I hope you find it helpful. Part 2 might pertain more to you: http://gooseinkorea.blogspot.com/2011/10/having-big-dog-in-korea-part-2-ensuring.html
Finally, I hope that you adopt here in Korea. There's many animals in need of a good home and adoption screeners will help and guide you through all things. Please check animalrescuekorea.org for all the available dogs here. And best of luck in your search for a pup! |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
| seoulsucker wrote: |
| The wife and I have two large dogs (70-80 lbs. each) and while it is challenging, our schedules, their training, and the natural temperament of the breed make it work and they're healthy, happy dogs. |
Would you mind sharing some specifics of how you trained them, what breed they are that makes their temperament manageable, and what your living situation is like? I realize this might be a lot to type, but anything would be greatly appreciated. |
They're both labrador retrievers, one black, one yellow.
We bought Stringer, the BL from a pet shop on Toegyero. When he was about 3 months I took a trip home for a few weeks. The wife and I had him stay at a kennel/training facility for 2 months for "puppy boot camp" that got him used to taking basic commands and "learning how to learn" as the trainer put it. He's still very excitable around other dogs and people who respond positively to him (if you ignore him on the street he does the same, but if you acknowledge him with an "Awwww..." it's PARTY TIME) but once he gets over the initial greeting he's really calm at home he's really relaxed as long as we get him out at least once a day for a 45 min-1 hour brisk walk with some play time at home.
Our yellow lab, Avon, was adopted from the Samsung guide dog program. They have a huge compound on the Everland grounds that houses all the labs in training. They have a really high dropout rate (something like 90%) and if you qualify after a pretty extensive interview process you can adopt them for free. Avon was about 1.5 years old when we got him, nearly fully trained, and an amazingly sweet and docile dog. He has trouble with escalators and elevators, which was enough to pull him from the program.
We have a 3BR villa about halfway up the road to the Hyatt/Namsan Park which is an ideal area for walking dogs. |
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kmwg19
Joined: 02 Feb 2012
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Oh here's one more post that may help ^^ http://gooseinkorea.blogspot.com/2012/05/common-reactions-to-lucy.html
I also say never leave your dog outside alone - tied up while you go in someplace OR even in a yard. A friend of mine who was here for some time had a Great Dane and left her in the yard and kids threw rocks over the fence at her : ( She wasn't injured, but could have been! Also you wouldn't want your pup to be stolen or get out/away so better safe than sorry - hope this also helps! |
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