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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Or held deep reservations from the beginning & never joined?
*raises hand* |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:33 am Post subject: |
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facebook is a great way to keep in touch with family and friends and eavesdrop on a few people from time to time. Innocent necessity for me at this time and point in my life.
That said, I've been on facebook for 2 1/2 years but have only updated my status only twice: Once to mention that my wife was pregnant and second saying it was girl.
I hate the thought of updating everyone that I just made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
Or held deep reservations from the beginning & never joined?
*raises hand* |
+1
Never interested me at all. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| i joined years ago because an old friend sent out a blanket email announcing the birth of his son with a link to his facebook page and you had to sign up if you wanted to see the pics. i never updated it, or posted any pics myself, but for years was bombarded with emails from them announcing people that wanted to allow me access to their accounts, some i knew from long ago, some i had never met or even heard of.LOL i quit last year figuring enough is enough. i figure it's bad enough the gov wants to spy on it's own citizens, but to willingly provide information about yourself for their database is ridicluous. |
Yeah, the amount of information out there on people raises more than a few concerns for me as well. I used to do a blog with little travel write ups and/or a photo now and then. I honestly just don't want my personal info out there - I'm in contact with who I want to be in contact with.
What's annoying about the facebook, linkd etc. stuff is it just goes into people's address books and starts spewing invites around creating a lot of unnecessary emails for everyone to respond to. |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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What the government learns from my Facebook account is likely to send whoever does this into the depths of the doldrums.
You do know that you control what information you post on your wall. I don't really do anything except respond to my "friends" and their (often inane) musings. No complaints about working late or updates about my menu. No pictures from my real life. Just a little commentary, also often inane.
One of my friends is a student I taught when she was in middle school. That was 16 years ago. She's now gainfully employed and all that and so we keep in touch loosely, as I do with other people that interest me. It serves a purpose and if I didn't have Facebook, someone could still tap my phone, hack my e-mail, follow me around or look in my windows at night. I'm really just not that interesting. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Facebook is fine. You have control over what you post there, just like you have control over what you do in public.
I've never understood people who are proud of never using Facebook, or love to profess their hate of it. It's like being proud of never making long-distance calls, or using sign language - it's just another form of communication.
Now, if it is a form of communication you don't like (probably because it opens you to inane updates from others - but, of course, you choose who your "friends" are too, don't you?), then no one is forcing you to use it, and you shouldn't. Good on you. What I don't understand is those who insist on going around advertising that fact, as if it makes them superior. No, it just makes you you. Enjoy it and spare us the "update", |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^ great post, man. I agree. I just see it as another tool of communication... not much more. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
Facebook is fine. You have control over what you post there, just like you have control over what you do in public.
I've never understood people who are proud of never using Facebook, or love to profess their hate of it. It's like being proud of never making long-distance calls, or using sign language - it's just another form of communication.
Now, if it is a form of communication you don't like (probably because it opens you to inane updates from others - but, of course, you choose who your "friends" are too, don't you?), then no one is forcing you to use it, and you shouldn't. Good on you. What I don't understand is those who insist on going around advertising that fact, as if it makes them superior. No, it just makes you you. Enjoy it and spare us the "update", |
I was in the process of responding to this when I was distracted by the facebook logo in the upper left hand corner. 
Honestly, when you compare the number of places and references to FB in the world the number of people commenting about not using facebook is pretty small.
It's another tangent - while facebook may be "just another way of communicating" in some manner there is quite a lot of writing to the contrary on how technology is anything but neutral or the impact of changing technologies on culture and attitudes.
Nicholas Carr's The Shallows is one of those books & very much worth reading. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| It's another tangent - while facebook may be "just another way of communicating" in some manner there is quite a lot of writing to the contrary on how technology is anything but neutral or the impact of changing technologies on culture and attitudes. |
Yeah, a lot of self-aggrandizing words from academics looking for the next sky-is-falling proclamation.
Any new form of communication causes a change in interaction methods and etiquette, and culture absorbs the things that people like and use, and discards the things that people don't, and everntually an equilibrium is reached until the next great technoligical upheaval and the process starts all over again.
And the world doesn't collapse at any stage in that process.
In fact, I think people make too much of Facebook one way or the other. It is a business like any other that will live and die on its popularity with consumers. And the only way it can remain popular is by giving them what they want. So I don't agree with people bemoaning Facebook for changing the culture of communication - instead, it is mainly providing a vehicle to allow people to communicate in a way that they like, in other words giving voice to an already internalised social need. Facebook hasn't created us - we created Facebook.
And as such, targeting the service as someothing evil is mere personal grandstanding, a look-at-my-individuality plea. Most normal people who don't like Facebook don't use it and live their lives. They don't go all over the web talking to strangers about how much they don't like it, as if talking to strangers over the internet and receiving their approbation is a higher calling, or something. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| tideout wrote: |
| It's another tangent - while facebook may be "just another way of communicating" in some manner there is quite a lot of writing to the contrary on how technology is anything but neutral or the impact of changing technologies on culture and attitudes. |
Yeah, a lot of self-aggrandizing words from academics looking for the next sky-is-falling proclamation.
Any new form of communication causes a change in interaction methods and etiquette, and culture absorbs the things that people like and use, and discards the things that people don't, and everntually an equilibrium is reached until the next great technoligical upheaval and the process starts all over again.
And the world doesn't collapse at any stage in that process.
In fact, I think people make too much of Facebook one way or the other. It is a business like any other that will live and die on its popularity with consumers. And the only way it can remain popular is by giving them what they want. So I don't agree with people bemoaning Facebook for changing the culture of communication - instead, it is mainly providing a vehicle to allow people to communicate in a way that they like, in other words giving voice to an already internalised social need. Facebook hasn't created us - we created Facebook.
And as such, targeting the service as someothing evil is mere personal grandstanding, a look-at-my-individuality plea. Most normal people who don't like Facebook don't use it and live their lives. They don't go all over the web talking to strangers about how much they don't like it, as if talking to strangers over the internet and receiving their approbation is a higher calling, or something. |
Yes, I agree, we'd want to avoid a lot of self-aggrandizing words on the subject. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| tideout wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| tideout wrote: |
| It's another tangent - while facebook may be "just another way of communicating" in some manner there is quite a lot of writing to the contrary on how technology is anything but neutral or the impact of changing technologies on culture and attitudes. |
Yeah, a lot of self-aggrandizing words from academics looking for the next sky-is-falling proclamation.
Any new form of communication causes a change in interaction methods and etiquette, and culture absorbs the things that people like and use, and discards the things that people don't, and everntually an equilibrium is reached until the next great technoligical upheaval and the process starts all over again.
And the world doesn't collapse at any stage in that process.
In fact, I think people make too much of Facebook one way or the other. It is a business like any other that will live and die on its popularity with consumers. And the only way it can remain popular is by giving them what they want. So I don't agree with people bemoaning Facebook for changing the culture of communication - instead, it is mainly providing a vehicle to allow people to communicate in a way that they like, in other words giving voice to an already internalised social need. Facebook hasn't created us - we created Facebook.
And as such, targeting the service as someothing evil is mere personal grandstanding, a look-at-my-individuality plea. Most normal people who don't like Facebook don't use it and live their lives. They don't go all over the web talking to strangers about how much they don't like it, as if talking to strangers over the internet and receiving their approbation is a higher calling, or something. |
Yes, I agree, we'd want to avoid a lot of self-aggrandizing words on the subject. |
How much of my post is about me? I'm responding to you directly, not starting a new thread about it. This is what you call a conversation.
Now, if you are the type of person who automatically assumes anyone disagreeing with you is simply trying to prove themselves superior, then you have (a) a weird sense of self, or (b) don't know what self-aggrandizing means. |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!
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If you have nothing to hide then it's unlikely Uncle Sam or who ever is going to have the resources to bother with you  . They already are more concerned about the Arab spring, Taliban in Afghanistan, Chinese hackers, dodgy cannabis growing in Moscow  etc etc.
Just turn off ALL email notifications and also all boring updates on the wall.
I've used it since 2006 (when I did my first ESL stint) and have tracked down over 100 friends I'd lost contact with and also keep in regular contact with new ones and family. It's also my scrapbook, photo album, I can keep up with colleagues' goings on over the weekend and find out useless facts about my favorite movies and singers. Also I find out interesting stuff on the pages 'GEPIK teachers' and 'The Northern Alliance'. If anyone has any other pages they find useful then, please, let us know.
It's also a source of amusement since the IPO, and Adblock is your friend. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| My uni was part of their first wave of expansion. As such, I've been using Facebook since 2004. Between using it for a long time and having friends in twenty different countries, I'd be hard-pressed to function without it. |
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