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[Who's Your Daddy?]

Interesting article:

http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/06/116_114026.html

�Most Canadians are here as English teachers but they can�t do it under the working holiday program,� Chatterson said.

�I think it is discrimination� (in that) Koreans can do almost anything in Canada under the working holiday program,� he noted.

Last year, nearly 4,000 Koreans explored Canada on the work and travel visa to learn English and pay their way there. In contrast, only 20 Canadians came here under the same program.

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Shocker, Koreans getting the benefits of a program without giving anything. Boy, this is just the tip of an iceberg.

"signed the visa agreement in 1996." Canada should cancel it. Korea has had enough time.

[tardisrider]

Shocking. Absolutely shocking.

[nautilus]

And in other news...millions of koreans allowed to live in the west with equal rights..while any foreigner who sets foot in Korea is viewed as an invasion force.

Part of the reason that Korean perceptions are so skewed and ill-informed is that the local media has been so one-sided and so irresponsible for so long.

[ttompatz]

[Who's Your Daddy?]

From the article: "Koreans on working holidays to find work in a broad range of fields, including teaching..."

Maybe no body will hire them, but it isn't the govt. blocking them. In Korea it is the government blocking their hiring.

[rooster_2006]

[Adventurer]

[jvalmer]

I doubt the Korean government really cares. Even if Canada restricted Koreans on visas from doing whatever jobs. I would be in full support of Canada slapping the same restrictions on Koreans, but come guys, how many Koreans are actually teaching anything in Canada?

And even if Korea liberalized their visa rules, I highly doubt it's going to drive up the number of Canadians wanting to do a working holiday in Korea.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[soomin]

I was curious about the H-1 visa after reading this article and found that *shocker* it has different requirements than an E-2... For an H-1 you only have to be 18 years old and you don't need a college degree. In Korea, that's one of the basic requirements for the E-2. Teaching isn't the only thing that is not allowed under an H-1 visa...

"H-1 visa holders are not permitted to be employed as receptionists, dancers, singers, musicians, acrobats at places of entertainment which might endanger good morals and manners, or as medical doctors, lawyers, professors, pilots, language instructors or other professional services which require certain qualifications in accordance with domestic laws."

http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=339&mnu=a02b03&start=1

[Steelrails]

I think both countries should get rid of working holiday visas. Working Holiday? Isn't that an oxymoron? Anything based of an oxymoron of that level of idiocy deserves to be sent to the bureaucratic ash heap. Things like that seem almost designed for abuse and haphazard enforcement. Reminds me of such great ones as "Professional Student" and "Congressional Ethics Committee"

[coralreefer_1]

Two points: One, I also think that in Korea there are more roadblocks for foreigners who want to visit/travel/settle in Korea compared with other nations (opening a business comes to mind)

That said, I think one thing that needs to be pointed out in this case, is that many of the Koreans who are going to Canada for working holidays are doing so not actually to "work", but rather in order to immerse themselves in an English environment to study English, and find ways to support themselves during that time.

I cannot image many Canadians would come to Korea to with the main focus "study" and work only as a side job. In short, (and I have no stats to back this up and its only an assumption)..the Koreans are going to Canada to put money INTO the country (paying for school)...while Canadians (assuming they were allowed to come here and teach) would be far more likely to come to Korea mainly to make money, and take a good chunk of it out of the country when leaving.

[comm]

[minos]

I had a European friend on that visa. She taught and did tons of other random jobs for companies here. Nobody cares about labor laws....an un-enforced double standard is a very weak double standard.

I actually considered it myself. Pretty sweet visa; I'm surprised more haven't came here on it if you have a freelance source of profit(like building websites, modeling, or artist). Nobody asked for my Visa status when I worked as an artist.

Is it hard to get? Only 20 people on the visa makes it sound difficult to acquire.

EDIT: allowing teaching on this visa will flood the market with even less qualified people and people from non English speaking countries. I'm out of korea but I imagine the market is still kinda tight compared to the golden days.

[Stan Rogers]

Now that there is a majority conservative government controlling the federal government in Canada, expect to see lots of changes.

I think we will see a lot of issues with various countries getting raised.