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bebuggery
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: Help sign my petition about ending my contract |
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I am getting many spam signatures. I am taking down the link.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Start your grad program 4 days late and the problem is solved.
Or is your grad program at home being as intransigent as your education office here?
As was pointed out, taking 4 days of unpaid leave at the end of your contract is the same as quitting 4 days early (forfeit your benefits).
Stay 4 more days for 4 million won or leave and lose it. For 1 million per day... I would stay.
Looks like you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
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bebuggery
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a question of "whether" I will have my cake and eat it too (it's not going to happen), but "should." Contractual doesn't equal reasonable, and I feel that the latter should get some recognition and advocacy.
The grad program is being intransigent, but less so, and I will in fact almost certainly stay until the end of the contract, but it's a matter of principle that I keep resisting this. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly, playing "gotcha" with the one person who can help you is seldom going to get you anywhere. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| bebuggery wrote: |
I..... Contractual doesn't equal reasonable, and I feel that the latter should get some recognition and advocacy.
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That is rather funny. |
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bebuggery
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That is rather funny. |
Because I'm being unreasonable? I suppose I would be if I actually expected her to budge, but that's not going to happen - it's a lost cause, and at this point I'm just looking for other people who share my sentiment on this issue.
But I feel strongly that my position was reasonable the whole way through: there is no good reason why deskwarming here for four days is more important that higher education, and I don't know why this isn't obvious to everyone involved. The only good reason to deny my request would be that the contract is airtight, but the supervisor eventually revealed that this was an arbitrary decision by her and her alone.
If she stands by that decision, then she shouldn't be concerned if other people receive a factually accurate account of it. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| How can I sign a petition to let "a random teacher" take 4 days off. At least post your name on the petition, especially as you were pretty happy to throw your supervisors name out there. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| How can I sign a petition to let "a random teacher" take 4 days off. At least post your name on the petition, especially as you were pretty happy to throw your supervisors name out there. |
Which is particularly ill-advised, given Korea's libel laws. |
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bebuggery
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Does libel come into play if everything stated is true and there was not a reasonable expectation of privacy (there were witnesses present and the meeting was conducted in the middle of an open work area)?
Anyway, I wouldn't want to be at any legal risk; the name was removed. |
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gwhitey09
Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you should read something before you sign it. You might actually not get your way for once. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Does libel come into play if everything stated is true and there was not a reasonable expectation of privacy (there were witnesses present and the meeting was conducted in the middle of an open work area)?
Anyway, I wouldn't want to be at any legal risk; the name was removed. |
I believe it does, in Korea. Obviously not in the West. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| bebuggery wrote: |
| Does libel come into play if everything stated is true ... ? |
In Korea, yes. |
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bebuggery
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe it does, in Korea. Obviously not in the West. |
Really? That's fascinating. I mean, people are forbidden from saying something like, "Joe kicked me yesterday," even if it was true? I guess it makes for a more polite society, but the mind reels at the thought of all those lawsuits flying around. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| bebuggery wrote: |
Does libel come into play if everything stated is true and there was not a reasonable expectation of privacy (there were witnesses present and the meeting was conducted in the middle of an open work area)?
Anyway, I wouldn't want to be at any legal risk; the name was removed. |
LOL.. now you are thinking like an American. This isn't the Litigious States of America and NO, truth is NOT a defense.
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| bebuggery wrote: |
Does libel come into play if everything stated is true and there was not a reasonable expectation of privacy (there were witnesses present and the meeting was conducted in the middle of an open work area)?
Anyway, I wouldn't want to be at any legal risk; the name was removed. |
I believe it does, in Korea. Obviously not in the West. |
Unless of course the truth was presented in a malicious manner as in Noonan v Staples. |
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