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luckylady
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| but vampires - even female ones - can't be out in the sunlight so it'd be real hard for her on the campaign trail |
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yodanole
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ghostrider
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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According to insiders, Romney is looking for a boring white guy. He wants someone who is safe- not a polarizing, ultra-conservative figure who attracts a lot of negative press like Palin did.
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With just over three months to go to the Republican convention, what sort of vice presidential nominee is Mitt Romney looking for? Well, a Republican official �familiar with the campaign�s thinking� tells Politico that what they want is an �incredibly boring white guy�.
You see, the Romney campaign is determined not to repeat the mistakes of the 2008 McCain campaign � including his choice of Sarah Palin as his candidate for the vice presidency. So they�re looking for a much safer � and more conventional � pick who won�t do any damage to Romney�s chances.
This approach would rule out Florida Senator Marco Rubio (not boring or white enough), who has been the bookies� favourite for most of the past year, although his odds did lengthen a few weeks ago when he said �I don't want to be the Vice President right now, or maybe ever.�
It would also seemingly eliminate Congressman Paul Ryan (not boring enough), Governors Nikki Haley and Susana Martinez (not white or male enough) and even the preferred candidiate of Republican voters, according to a recent poll, Condoleezza Rice (not boring, white or male enough). |
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7848958/romney-seeks-incredibly-boring-white-guy.thtml |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| he should look in the mirror |
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sirius black
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
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| Santorum could possibly be a good VP for him. |
I'm speechless - we as a nation are truly swirling down the drain. |
I'm no fan of Santorum. I think he'd be a terrible President were to become one. However, I was writing strictly as an imaginary strategist for Romney. Santorum would presumably deliver Pennsylvania and help make up the gap in either Florida or Ohio to Romney. |
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ironclad80
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'm from Pennsylvania. Santorum wouldn't help Romney take this state. After all, Santorum dropped out of the race right before the Pennsylvania primary because he would have suffered an embarrassing loss to Romney. He was trailing in the polls by a landslide.
How would he be more attractive to Pennsylvanians in the general election?
Also, Santorum's right-wing extremist presence would bring out people who would typically lean towards Obama but otherwise would not have voted. At this point, I don't know if it's even worth voting, but if Romney picked Santorum, I'd absolutely get out there and vote for Obama.
That's just my $0.02. Santorum would be a terrible pick for Romney. |
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sml7285
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| That's just my $0.02. Santorum would be a terrible pick for Romney. |
Agreed. I've been calling for a Romney/Petraeus ticket for 4 years now. That or Romney/Pawlenty would have the best chances for a win in November. |
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sirius black
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Santorum has won statewide election in Penna. against Dems so he has a track record there. Also, would Pennsylvanians pick Obama over a ticket with a native son? (although Biden has ties to the state, Scranton I think, can't recall).
Dilemna for Romney is that the base isn't excited about him and they need the base to come out. I don't think he'll get a clear majority of the centrists and independents. However, if he goes to the base with a far right pick he may alienate the center. A dilemna.
In any event he is likely to lose and there aren't too many people he can pick that will reverse that. Maybe NJ's Christie who presumably will also be attractive to Pennsylvanians and maybe Ohians. While also getting the center.
Will Pawlenty get the base? Maybe. Its a good pick. But I don't see a VP getting him the election. It will have to be on some issue or circumstances changed as it did for Obama with the financial meltdown. Before that, McCain stood a very good chance. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Based on the past several elections when is the VP usually picked - as in being announced to the public? |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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is typical to announce at the party's primary. usually this (the vp choice) is kept under wraps until then to allow for a "bump" as part of the hype around a party's nomination and general overall "get out the vote" encouragement.
various names and choices are floated around through unofficial leaks beforehand to see how well the public responds as well as big donors. it also lets the media do some of the vetting because they might find something the candidate should know already but hasn't found out yet.
the way things are handled behind the scenes, as far as the Repubs are concerned, I'm sure the Koch brothers already have their vp choice wrapped up; the public just won't hear about it until the primary. |
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sml7285
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Santorum has won statewide election in Penna. against Dems so he has a track record there. Also, would Pennsylvanians pick Obama over a ticket with a native son? (although Biden has ties to the state, Scranton I think, can't recall).
Dilemna for Romney is that the base isn't excited about him and they need the base to come out. I don't think he'll get a clear majority of the centrists and independents. However, if he goes to the base with a far right pick he may alienate the center. A dilemna.
In any event he is likely to lose and there aren't too many people he can pick that will reverse that. Maybe NJ's Christie who presumably will also be attractive to Pennsylvanians and maybe Ohians. While also getting the center.
Will Pawlenty get the base? Maybe. Its a good pick. But I don't see a VP getting him the election. It will have to be on some issue or circumstances changed as it did for Obama with the financial meltdown. Before that, McCain stood a very good chance. |
Pennsylvania is almost definitely blue this year; picking Santorum would scare away the moderates. Pawlenty would help Romney win Minnesota, which would be a huge win for Romney and Petraeus would give Romney a landslide win in the veteran vote. Romney needs to pick a candidate who is slightly right of center, rather than the typical nutjob-Republican. (Disclaimer: I'm a conservative Constitutionalist, but I don't really align myself with the Republican Party.) |
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northway
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Santorum has won statewide election in Penna. against Dems so he has a track record there. Also, would Pennsylvanians pick Obama over a ticket with a native son? (although Biden has ties to the state, Scranton I think, can't recall).
Dilemna for Romney is that the base isn't excited about him and they need the base to come out. I don't think he'll get a clear majority of the centrists and independents. However, if he goes to the base with a far right pick he may alienate the center. A dilemna.
In any event he is likely to lose and there aren't too many people he can pick that will reverse that. Maybe NJ's Christie who presumably will also be attractive to Pennsylvanians and maybe Ohians. While also getting the center.
Will Pawlenty get the base? Maybe. Its a good pick. But I don't see a VP getting him the election. It will have to be on some issue or circumstances changed as it did for Obama with the financial meltdown. Before that, McCain stood a very good chance. |
Pennsylvania is almost definitely blue this year; picking Santorum would scare away the moderates. Pawlenty would help Romney win Minnesota, which would be a huge win for Romney and Petraeus would give Romney a landslide win in the veteran vote. Romney needs to pick a candidate who is slightly right of center, rather than the typical nutjob-Republican. (Disclaimer: I'm a conservative Constitutionalist, but I don't really align myself with the Republican Party.) |
I tend to disagree on the veteran thing. They're really not that cohesive of a voting block. |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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What about Condi?
http://news.yahoo.com/rice-romneys-running-mate-drive-left-crazy-163500752.html
Rice as Romney's Running Mate Would Drive Left Crazy
COMMENTARY | The sterling performance of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at a meeting of Mitt Romney supporters in Utah, as reported by ABC News, has spurred speculation she might be asked to become Romney's running mate.
Constitution Daily lays out the advantages of Rice on the ticket. She is a black woman with Cabinet level experience with a proven expertise in foreign and defense policy. She has a compelling life story of having grown up in the segregated South. In many ways she is complimentary to Romney's white bread persona and mainly domestic policy experience.
Rice has said many times she does not desire elected office. It is uncertain whether being asked directly by her party's presumptive nominee would overcome that reluctance.
Rice has another advantage that will play into the weaknesses of President Barack Obama and his supporters and would drive them crazy. The first weakness is to blame their failures on George W. Bush. The second is a near total hypocrisy where it concerns racism.
One can almost hear the outcries coming from the Obama campaign should Romney ask Rice to be his running mate and should she accept. It's the return of the Bush administration! It's the return of all of those failed policies of the past!
The problem is many of those "failed" policies, including the tax cuts and various strategies for waging the war on terror have after having been denounced by Obama, were retained and even enhanced by President Obama. Guantanamo Bay is still open. Most of the Patriot Act is still in force. Drones and teams of special operations forces are still hunting down terrorists.
The Obama campaign would be distracted running against President Bush in apparent blissful ignorance that it is running against Romney. This disconnect will be noticed by the electorate.
The other weakness is the tendency of some liberals to act like Klansmen when the target of their ire is a conservative, as manifest by an ugly, racist cartoon published depicting Rice as a stereotyped black maid. The same people who denounce any criticism of the president as racist will be over the top in their racist attacks against Rice. Sadly, this might mitigate against her accepting the No. 2 spot. No one should suffer the aggravation. |
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Zackback
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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She just may indeed be the one.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashcm.htm
ROMNEY NARROWS VP CHOICES; CONDI EMERGES AS FRONTRUNNER
Thu Jul 12 2012 19:30:01 ET
**Exclusive**
Late Thursday evening, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign launched a new fundraising drive, 'Meet The VP' -- just as Romney himself has narrowed the field of candidates to a handful, sources reveal.
And a surprise name is now near the top of the list: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice!
The timing of the announcement is now set for 'coming weeks'.
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It was Condi who received two standing ovations at Romney's Utah retreat a few weeks ago, and everyone left with her name on their lips.
Rice made an extended argument for American leadership in the world.
In recent days, she emailed supporters:
"2012 is perhaps a turning point for the United States."
"The upcoming elections loom as one of the most important in my lifetime," she warned. "I'm very often asked to speak about our current foreign policy and the challenges that lie before us. However, we, as a country, are not going to be able to address any of those international challenges unless we first get our domestic house in order."
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: |
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He's going to pander. Either Rubio or Rice.
Rice is a lesbian, no? I don't know if the Republican base is going to show up in droves to vote for a Mormon private equity tycoon who passed Obamacare in Massachusetts and his black lesbian VP.
Romney is building a team of sociopaths. John Bolton at State?
Here's his team of Foreign Policy Elders:
Dov Zakheim
Robert Kagan
Michael Chertoff
Eliot Cohen
Eric Edelman
John Lehman
Evan Feigenbaum
Aaron Friedberg
Kent Lucken
Kristen Silverberg
and so on. I am completely unable to predict what those nice people above will want. Rice is the icing on the cake. She'll present a moral case for American Leadership (wars for Zionistan) without the baggage of being an obvious Israel-firster or Old White Male.
Obama and Biden, despite their batty domestic stuff are islands of sanity compared to a potential Mitt admin. Half a dozen of one and 6 of the other. |
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