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Patrick Bateman
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Location: Lost in Translation
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
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| I once saw at a Korean-owned cafe an espresso for 3000 won and an Americano for 2500 won. They pull their grinds from the exact same dispenser. Clearly the concept of price attached to coffee in Korea has very little to do with logic and more to do with image. That, or customers don't actually know what it is they're ordering. |
Strange, usually it's the opposite (the americano is 500 won more than the espresso). I've always found it a little ridiculous that:
- you pay 500 won for hot water (espresso vs. americano).
- you pay 500 won for ice (iced drink vs. hot drink). |
For what it's worth, a number of more reputable coffee stores add a shot of espresso to iced coffee drinks to prevent them from tasting diluted. That explains why some shops charge more.
I'm not saying most coffee shops do this, but they probably saw the pricing scheme and just copied that. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:52 am Post subject: Re: Starbucks Korea to increase coffee prices |
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| cdninkorea wrote: |
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Starbucks has been overcharging for coffee worldwide and this raise is just another example....
As for the coffee growers, unless Starcrap pretends they are part of an equitable trade network then expecting them to pay a fair price to the growers is like expecting Wal Mart to pay suppliers a fair price. 
Perhaps there are better alternatives for coffee at a better price in Korea than Starbucks?? |
How is Starbucks overcharging? Their prices reflect what Starbucks is willing to sell goods for and customers are willing to pay. Similarly, what is a "fair price" for Starbucks or Wal-Mart to pay suppliers? The price reflects what both parties agree on through voluntary exchange.
What you or I think is a "fair price" is only relevant if and insofar as we are parties to the transaction.
Somewhat tangentially, I make my own coffee most of the time; I roast and grind the beans myself (roasting is fun!), and have a French Press for coffee and an espresso machine for espresso. lattes, and the occasional mocha. |
As a fellow roaster (been roasting my own coffee for over 10 years), you should be wise to the fact that coffee shops here could still turn a considerable profit if they charged half as much for their coffee. |
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Dochas
Joined: 08 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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There are a few coffee shops within about a block of me, a couple charge closer to Starbucks prices, but I found a lovely small shop that is quiet and very reasonable (1k for americano, 2.5k for a flavored latte) and the coffee actually tastes good.
I had a bad Starbucks habit back in the states, with hardly a day going by without me stopping in on my lunch break. I've cut back here, but it's nice to know I'm only a block away from a good coffee fix at a decent price instead of shoveling more money at Starbucks.
On a different note, for those of you that roast at home, where did you get your roaster and green beans. I used to ghetto roast with a popcorn popper and I had a bean site in the states, but no clue where I would get started here. |
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BriTunes
Joined: 12 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Starbucks is cheap when you consider how the other chains fill their cups halfway or mini cups for the same 5000. |
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The Sultan of Seoul
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BriTunes wrote: |
| Starbucks is cheap when you consider how the other chains fill their cups halfway or mini cups for the same 5000. |
All you are getting is less water. Simply ask for more water. |
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BriTunes
Joined: 12 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The Sultan of Seoul wrote: |
| BriTunes wrote: |
| Starbucks is cheap when you consider how the other chains fill their cups halfway or mini cups for the same 5000. |
All you are getting is less water. Simply ask for more water. |
Not in my case. I order latte's, and the other chains fill their "large" which is a Starbucks small, half or less than half-full, then way too much foam for the same if not more than SBUX. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the best drink at Starbucks? |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the best drink at Starbucks? |
dude Resurrected a dead thread to ask that?
the best drink is the drink you like. |
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soomin
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| What's the best drink at Starbucks? |
I was a barista at a couple of places (not at Starbucks) in the States and we got asked this question a lot.
If you like sweet, caramel macchiato.
If you're looking for energy, red eye/shot in the dark (Americano with an extra shot)
If you want something mild and easily flavored, latte (+flavor shot if you like)
If you want a chocolate fix, mocha
If you don't want coffee, green tea latte or chai latte
If it's super hot outside and you want a grown-up smoothie but don't need to caffeine or necessarily the taste of coffee, frappuccino
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| What's the best drink at Starbucks? |
dude Resurrected a dead thread to ask that?
the best drink is the drink you like. |
It was the last Starbucls thread. Don't you like Starbucks? |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny thing is that an iced coffee in the states is 2 bucks or was a couple of years ago. It's amost double here. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares what price Starbucks is? If you can't afford it, don't go. If 500 won either way makes it within your budget or not, NEWSFLASH! You can't afford Starbucks- You have greater economic concerns.
It's like people who walk into normal restaurants and freak out about the price- If you have to ask and check the prices, you probably can't afford to eat there in the first place. Like people who wine about going to the 8,500 won galbi place instead of the 6,000 won one. Geez, if 2,500 is breaking your bank you have bigger problems and should be at home eating a 1,000 plate of crap or better yet, working.
As for Starbucks, their coffee sucks. It's too acidic. Of all the "chain" coffee stores, I find Ediya to be the best.
And anyone who thinks people go to coffee stores for the "image" is a retard. You go there because you need an air conditioned place to chill and kill time and maybe talk. You don't want to go to a restaurant because you aren't hungry. The weather is hot or rainy or whatever. You have to meet someone in an hour so you don't have time to go home. It's not like you can hop in a car and drive back to your dorm in 5 minutes. Where do you go? A coffee shop. You don't go to a coffee shop to have people look at you or to brag to your friends. Look around- Tom N Toms, A Twosome Place, etc etc are all packed as well. And no, no one out at 2PM shopping and meeting people wants to sit on the filthy plastic lawn chairs outside Family Mart, inhale cigarette smoke, and run around the corner if they have to use the bathroom.
Now I know for some of you drinking a 5,000 won latte in Starbucks may seem like you're in some exclusive restaurant with Michelin stars and month long reservations or the Club Level in a hotel, but for the rest of us, its just a coffee shop, and a crappy one at that.
The only drink I mildly enjoyed at Starbucks was their Apple Spice Cider or whatever way back when, but that was because instead of apple juice, the franchiser of the Starbucks that made it right used apple cider from a local orchard. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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The only thing I ever get at any coffee shop is a latte with no sugar or syrup added. It's a once a month treat (and not really a treat, now that I think of it, but necessary caffeine when I'm out and am getting a headache,) at most, as I usually drink tea and carry a thermos in the colder months.
Geez. It's 300 won. That's what? A quarter in American money? Whoopdie freaking do. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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What is 300Won?
Certainly not a latte.... |
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toonchoon
Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Glad I picked up that espresso maker (albeit 2x the price of what it is in the USA) and Kirkland signature espresso blend at Costco. I drink way too much coffee to be hitting up Sbux 2-3 times a day.
Oh, this thread is about the prices? Sure, the price increase sux, but people will continue to roll in and purchase and sit there for hours on end playing on their smartphones. |
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