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Getting on / Using US Military Bases
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Internationalist wrote:
They are grown men and are capable of making decisions for themselves. If it is lax and common then I am sure someone will do it. If it is strickly regulated / monitored and forced well then I will prob have to find another means to what I want.


Of course they are grown men and women. They are also in the military. You seem to not understand that being in the military is quite different from being an employee. Plus, black-marketing is not as common as you seem to think it is. Access to the base Exchange and Commissary is not lax and is strictly regulated. The purchases made by authorized personnel are also strictly monitored to identify black-marketing.

The Internationalist wrote:
And? There is plenty of dumb rules and laws all over the world that people break all the time. Like I all ready mentioned, I dont see nothing wrong with someone buying something for me. (given the people that is intended for has adequate food and clothes ect which they do)


And the people who care about enforcing those laws do enforce those. These people include US military officials, US Customs personnel, and South Korean law enforcement personnel. And it doesn't matter if you don't see anything wrong with disobeying a law that you find inconveniences you. And the consequences for the military person breaking the law you don't like are quite severe.

The Internationalist wrote:
Here again, I dont care about any stupid law or regulation.


Again, your opinion of the law is irrelevant. The facts are that the law is in place and it is enforced.

The Internationalist wrote:
No different. People can and do lose their jobs for doing the same thing in common commercial stores. Thing is people need to be smart about it and not exploit it ie buying in bulk and re-selling for profit. That will draw attention to you. I doubt x military member will serve prison time for buying me a MBP and some boxes of Trix.


Work on your reading comprehension. My posting was quite clear. And you have no idea if the boxes of cereal your "friend" conveys to you happen to be the key data that triggers an investigation into the illegal habits of your "friend."

The Internationalist wrote:
I havent "whined" about any info. Wasnt exactly what I wanted to find out, but I aint worried because I know Ill get what I want.


Actually, "whine" is a rather accurate description of your posts in this thread.
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The Internationalist



Joined: 26 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

Of course they are grown men and women. They are also in the military. You seem to not understand that being in the military is quite different from being an employee. Plus, black-marketing is not as common as you seem to think it is. Access to the base Exchange and Commissary is not lax and is strictly regulated. The purchases made by authorized personnel are also strictly monitored to identify black-marketing.


Lets see break rule get fired. You can get fired in the military right?

Let me guess, OSI has undercover agents tailing all the GI's after purchases.


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And the people who care about enforcing those laws do enforce those. These people include US military officials, US Customs personnel, and South Korean law enforcement personnel. And it doesn't matter if you don't see anything wrong with disobeying a law that you find inconveniences you. And the consequences for the military person breaking the law you don't like are quite severe.


Well then, we can let the military personal make their own choice as to if they wanna follow the law are not.

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Again, your opinion of the law is irrelevant. The facts are that the law is in place and it is enforced.


Again, I dont care about said law so you mentioning it to me as if I cared is only a waste of key strikes.

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Work on your reading comprehension. My posting was quite clear. And you have no idea if the boxes of cereal your "friend" conveys to you happens to be the key data that triggers an investigation into the illegal habits of your "friend."


So civilians dont have investigations launched against them for similar conduct? My reading comprehension is just fine sir, id take your own advise Wink

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Actually, "whine" is a rather accurate description of your posts in this thread.


If you say so.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Internationalist wrote:
CentralCali wrote:

Of course they are grown men and women. They are also in the military. You seem to not understand that being in the military is quite different from being an employee. Plus, black-marketing is not as common as you seem to think it is. Access to the base Exchange and Commissary is not lax and is strictly regulated. The purchases made by authorized personnel are also strictly monitored to identify black-marketing.


Lets see break rule get fired. You can get fired in the military right?

Let me guess, OSI has undercover agents tailing all the GI's after purchases.



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And the people who care about enforcing those laws do enforce those. These people include US military officials, US Customs personnel, and South Korean law enforcement personnel. And it doesn't matter if you don't see anything wrong with disobeying a law that you find inconveniences you. And the consequences for the military person breaking the law you don't like are quite severe.


Well then, we can let the military personal make their own choice as to if they wanna follow the law are not.

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Again, your opinion of the law is irrelevant. The facts are that the law is in place and it is enforced.


Again, I dont care about said law so you mentioning it to me as if I cared is only a waste of key strikes.

Quote:

Work on your reading comprehension. My posting was quite clear. And you have no idea if the boxes of cereal your "friend" conveys to you happens to be the key data that triggers an investigation into the illegal habits of your "friend."


So civilians dont have investigations launched against them for similar conduct? My reading comprehension is just fine sir, id take your own advise Wink

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Actually, "whine" is a rather accurate description of your posts in this thread.


If you say so.

They are serious about it. They've got CCTVs in the PX and they limit purchases of alcohol, etc. AFKN, when I used to watch, aired commericals about not abusing PX privileges, and the consequences for abusing them, quite often.

Getting on the base and eating at one of the restaurants or using the book store is not a big thing, but the PX is another matter completely. My advice is to befriend a Mormon and he or she can use their alcohol allotment to buy you booze.

Or you could just become a gold star member at Costco.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really wanna see what a PX looks like from the inside, you go visit one in a Korean base if you have a conscript as a friend.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
My advice is to befriend a Mormon and he or she can use their alcohol allotment to buy you booze.


Also bad advice. The Mormons in the military are subject to the laws. Also, the book stores were absorbed into the Exchange a few years ago.

My advice is for the OP to act in a law-abiding manner.
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Drew10



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everyone is blowing this thread out of proportions from both sides.

The military members can buy items and give them as "gifts" from the exchange/commissary. However, there is a dollar amount limit.

For example, the OP mentioned a MBP and some Trix.

MBP is a no go. Trix would be ok.

If you did make a "buddy" who would get you things, he would get in major trouble for buying a nice MBP and not having it in his room when they come pack his things up.

If he sold it, he'd have to prove he sold it to another SOFA status holder.

That said, most military members here don't care that you can't get Trix whenever you want. Occasionally you find that one guy who's nice enough to get you things, but most will ask for a little extra for their time/taxi ride, at which point you're paying grey market prices.

Personally, I feel that making friends with a military member just to get things from base is a douche move, but more power to you if it works OP.

TL;DR

You won't get "tax free electronics" from base.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, do you know what the term "mark" means?
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