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Oldschoolskater
Joined: 06 Jan 2012
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave's has replaced my desire to watch soap operas thanks to threads like these. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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the answer is YES your indian bf can find a job in korea. from buchoen to inchon there are literally tens of thousands of small/medium size factories all over. most of workers are non-korean from all over s.e asia and m.e and these factories are always looking for workers no matter where they come from. if your bf is college educated and speaks fluent english so the factory can use him for something else besides the simple repetitions he will be able to make 2mil/m.
at least it's an honest job. so go for it. |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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What are you guys even arguing about?
Are you saying Asians have a hard time in the US?
I don't know where you grew up, maybe some backwards red state, but where I'm from racists attitudes and stereotypes are something you read about in history books. I never looked at someone and thought "Oh, this person's black, so they're like this and I can't be friends with them".
Maybe I've heard some white people say something along the lines of "Well, I don't think black people are that smart or Asians are untrustworthy or don't marry a Jew" But those kind of people are very rare and they get called out on that crap very quick.
I'd say the vast majority of white people harbour no racist feelings whatsoever, and the minority that do bite their lips and don't say anything. I think minorities, particularly in my country of Canada, have it pretty good. About as well as can be expected for a group that is coming in and wiggling out a space for themselves. I mean what did you expect? A red carpet welcoming?
That doesn't mean I think white people have it bad in Korea. Quite the opposite, we have it pretty good. Thanks to the legacy of our ancestors and their technological developments. Our preferential treatment in this country is totally undeserved. And to fair, Koreans are pretty amiable to most races, at least publicly. They view foreigners with a sort of exotic curiosity, as opposed to repressed hate (They save all of that for the Japanese).
It's not really a race issue at all. It's a community issue, isn't it? When that Gyopo gang-banger got busted teaching in Bundang, it wasn't about him being Gyopo that made headlines, it was him being an English teacher. It was "English Teacher wanted on murder charges". That was the headline. When that African-American went nuts and punched that old man on the bus, again, the focus was on the fact that he was an English teacher.
Gyopo, black, white--doesn't really matter to the Koreans, we are the English teachers. That's how we are viewed. |
http://www.multiculturaladvantage.com/leader/workplace-leadership/Why-Are-Asian-American-Executives-Scarce.asp
I'm not talking about from an everyday point of view. I've only been discriminated against for my race in person a dozen times or so in the 23 years I lived in the States.
What I'm talking about is the glass ceiling that exists for Asians as well as the ludicrous requirements for Asians to get into the top tier schools. When I began meetings with my college counselor in HS about applying to colleges the first thing out of her mouth was, "you're going to have a tougher time than everyone else getting into top schools because of your race." |
your post makes me sad. it's true that most top tier private universities exercise so called 'holistic' admission process which limits number of asians admitted. despite that disadvantages asians make up the majority in the nation's top academic institutions and beyond such as top medical and law schools and graduate schools. and they do excel in all sectors of the american society after they graduate. so don't fret and be confident. you will be doing just fine. my advice is that you should not waste your time in the korean army unless it's unavoidable. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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OldschoolSkater I would appreciate it if you corrected your post. It looks like I said negative things about Dodge, which is totally false. That was what that spoiled brat sml said.
Dodge is wonderful and nobody hates him at all. He can see what that Korean-American brat can't. That someone so spoiled and cuddled faces one hurdle, claims its all because of discrimination, and makes the stupid decision to run away to the Korean military. |
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sml7285
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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OldschoolSkater I would appreciate it if you corrected your post. It looks like I said negative things about Dodge, which is totally false. That was what that spoiled brat sml said.
Dodge is wonderful and nobody hates him at all. He can see what that Korean-American brat can't. That someone so spoiled and cuddled faces one hurdle, claims its all because of discrimination, and makes the stupid decision to run away to the Korean military. |
What is with this vendetta you have against me? Have I somehow wronged you? What should I apologize for to have you quit this schoolyard harassment?
I have no issues with Dodge. He's answered questions I've had in the past and I've had a solid attitude in answering any questions he's had that I've been able to answer. However, if he's going to turn and be extremely unhelpful and troll, I'm going to call him out on it.
That being said, I don't hold grudges. Not in the real world and definitely not online against Internet tough guys. I have no further qualms with Dodge. I have said my piece. To you, I have again and again explained my situation. I don't understand what I've ever done to offend you or cause anyone here to childishly call me names.
I've worked my ass off to get to where I am today and I plan to continue to work hard to get to where I want to get to. If this makes me a "brat" and a "spoiled" and "cuddled" one at that, then so be it - I epitomize greed and childishness. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
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| FYI, I have relatives who were victims of the Nazis. |
What do you want, a medal? |
No, I want asinine people to not "treat" me to fake German accents and accusations of me behaving like a Nazi when I suggest someone obey the law and when I suggest someone attempt to communicate intelligibly on a board for English teachers.
Is that simple enough for you? |
Sadly not it will not be. You need to dumb it down further I think. Also use bigger letters and bright colors and if possible pictures to help him understand. |
you guys are too much. i hope this will clear things up a bit, despite my unintelligible writing.LOL
1. centralcali, i did not take issue with the fact that you suggest someone obey the law. i'm all for that. i take issue with this hateful rhetoric...
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I hope the boyfriend gets caught and detained for breaking the law and the OP gets detained for abetting. |
2. if you go back and read the thread carefully, and can somehow make sense of my unintelligible writing, you will discover that I DID NOT call you a gestapo, but rather posed this question...
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| to everyone who wrote that they hope this guy gets caught and deported please ask yourself.... if you married a korean and moved back to the states and then your spouses brother or sister came to visit for three months and found an under the table job to make a few extra bucks... would you also wish that they were caught and deported? if you do not wish that then you are human, but inconsistant. if you DO wish that then you have a bright future with the gestapo.LOL |
so if centralcali thinks that i was refering to him when i wrote the last sentence then it stands to reason that he decided that he would in fact wish his own relatives be detained and deported should they find themselves in similar circumstances. maybe i shouldn't have used the word "gestapo" because of cultural/historical sensativity issues and for that i may be wrong and i admit that i can be an insensitive bastard at times. perhaps i should have used the word 'hateful' or 'totalitarian' instead. as they do not have the same connotations as the word 'gestapo'.
3.Patrick. since you obviously agree with central cali and refused to answer my straight foward question in a previous post(not the first time either) i must assume that you also would not only be against your relatives working on an improper visa(which is smart), but you also would wish that they be detained and deported should they ever do so. here's the logical next question to you patrick... would you call and report your own relatives to the authorities to ensure that they were caught and deported? i know this must pose an intellectual quandary for you... on the one hand you have a need to portray yourself as a good family man... on the other hand you also have a need to portray yourself as an honest government employee. please choose wisely... for your own selfknowledge, even if you choose to avoid answering this question on a public forum.
i hope this cleared up some things that i feel were misunderstood. now i'm off to read some heidegger and later on watch my favorite episode of 'seinfeld' it's the one where the guy who makes really good soup keeps yelling "NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
hehehehhehehehehe |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| sml7285 wrote: |
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OldschoolSkater I would appreciate it if you corrected your post. It looks like I said negative things about Dodge, which is totally false. That was what that spoiled brat sml said.
Dodge is wonderful and nobody hates him at all. He can see what that Korean-American brat can't. That someone so spoiled and cuddled faces one hurdle, claims its all because of discrimination, and makes the stupid decision to run away to the Korean military. |
What is with this vendetta you have against me? Have I somehow wronged you? What should I apologize for to have you quit this schoolyard harassment?
I have no issues with Dodge. He's answered questions I've had in the past and I've had a solid attitude in answering any questions he's had that I've been able to answer. However, if he's going to turn and be extremely unhelpful and troll, I'm going to call him out on it.
That being said, I don't hold grudges. Not in the real world and definitely not online against Internet tough guys. I have no further qualms with Dodge. I have said my piece. To you, I have again and again explained my situation. I don't understand what I've ever done to offend you or cause anyone here to childishly call me names.
I've worked my ass off to get to where I am today and I plan to continue to work hard to get to where I want to get to. If this makes me a "brat" and a "spoiled" and "cuddled" one at that, then so be it - I epitomize greed and childishness. |
You want to settle this.
1) Apologize for claiming that Asian-Americans are unfairly discriminated against. I'm sick of always being the bad guy in every thing. I was born into a poor white family. We were on welfare for many years. I never had new clothes. I never got to go on field trips. We didn't even have a car. I went to university on my own. Paid for it in full and never missed a payment. And yet I have sit here and listen this crap all the time about how I'm so privileged because I'm white. Bullsh**
2) Admit that turning down a job in the US to spend two years in the Korean military is a stupid decision, because it is. It's basically a prison sentence. Who is their right mind would willingly choose to go to prison?
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| I was born into a poor white family. We were on welfare for many years. I never had new clothes. I never got to go on field trips. We didn't even have a car. I went to university on my own. Paid for it in full and never missed a payment. And yet I have sit here and listen this crap all the time about how I'm so privileged because I'm white. Bullsh** |
Ah, that would explain the tough guy image. Actually, before sml gets all aggrieved I think number one on your hate list was down to me as I brought up a couple of posts where you seemed to be contradicting yourself. You appeared to be telling people how you dealt with sleepy kids in your current job then a few posts later you told everyone you didn't go near jobs for E2 ers. I asked you how your current job was different from what E2 ers do and you called me a stalker, a creep, insufferable and then later a retard for explaining how
I'd arrived at my assumption (your use of the simple present tense) I expect I'll get another stream of abuse for this now. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Sure you want some more abuse. Here goes.
"When I cook pizza I like add pepperoni and mushrooms."
Does this sentence mean I'm cooking a pizza right-friggin-now?
Does is mean I'll for sure cook another pizza in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
"When kids sleep in my class I just let them sleep."
Does this mean I have kid sleeping in my class right now?
Does this mean I'll for sure have another kid sleep in my class in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
Thanks for correcting me on who my stalker was. It's not nice to accuse people of saying something they didn't. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:49 am Post subject: |
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I am just so excited that the OP has an Indian boyfriend. This is proof that she is free of racism and just an all around better human than the rest of us. Her fearlessness is an example to us all. Hell I am excited that she has any kind of boyfriend.
Tell the bum that he can not live off of you! if he doesnt have a job in two weeks toss him. How much has he soaked you for?
The arrest deportation process will be exciting. A huge fine some time in jail, a flight home and probably restriction on your passport. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Sure you want some more abuse. Here goes.
"When I cook pizza I like add pepperoni and mushrooms."
Does this sentence mean I'm cooking a pizza right-friggin-now?
Does is mean I'll for sure cook another pizza in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
"When kids sleep in my class I just let them sleep."
Does this mean I have kid sleeping in my class right now?
Does this mean I'll for sure have another kid sleep in my class in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
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Ok if you want to have a nice mature discussion on English grammar, I'm game. You make some fair points but let me put it anbother way. If there was another post on here posing the question, for example, 'What do you do if you don't have time to do your university essay?'
Now I assume we both used to be students and we might both be students again in the future but, in order for the person who posed the question not to think I was currently a student I would probably either say something like 'when I was a student I used to ask my professor for an extension, or I would say 'if I was a student I'd probably ask my professor for an extension' I think it's unlikely I would say 'I ask my professor for an extension.' Yes your pizza example describes someone doing an action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises but I'm not sure people would talk about jobs in the same way.
Ok you can disagree with me on that point if you like but all I'm really asking you to do is to appreciate that it would be possible for someone to get the wrong end of the stick. Without being retarded. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Sure you want some more abuse. Here goes.
"When I cook pizza I like add pepperoni and mushrooms."
Does this sentence mean I'm cooking a pizza right-friggin-now?
Does is mean I'll for sure cook another pizza in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
"When kids sleep in my class I just let them sleep."
Does this mean I have kid sleeping in my class right now?
Does this mean I'll for sure have another kid sleep in my class in the future?
No, what it means is that I do the action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises.
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Ok if you want to have a nice mature discussion on English grammar, I'm game. You make some fair points but let me put it anbother way. If there was another post on here posing the question, for example, 'What do you do if you don't have time to do your university essay?'
Now I assume we both used to be students and we might both be students again in the future but, in order for the person who posed the question not to think I was currently a student I would probably either say something like 'when I was a student I used to ask my professor for an extension, or I would say 'if I was a student I'd probably ask my professor for an extension' I think it's unlikely I would say 'I ask my professor for an extension.' Yes your pizza example describes someone doing an action as a habitual behavior when the time and place for that action arises but I'm not sure people would talk about jobs in the same way.
Ok you can disagree with me on that point if you like but all I'm really asking you to do is to appreciate that it would be possible for someone to get the wrong end of the stick. Without being retarded. |
You are still wrong because I wasn't a teacher in the past. I still am a teacher. And I still teach kids. And it's not a job a E2er can do because it's part-time work. I have four jobs.
You'll be happy to know none of my little angels fell asleep today. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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it's not a job a E2er can do because it's part-time work. I have four jobs |
Right, so when I originally asked you what you did that was different from an E2er you could have just said this couldn't you? |
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