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edwardcatflap
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 Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: Korea v Japan |
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| Apparantly the Korean footballers will get out of military service if they win tonight so check out their expressions of joy/devastation after the final whistle. Imagine the pressure on a guy who misses a vital penalty |
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crisdean
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Location: Seoul Special City
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| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Korea v Japan |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Apparantly the Korean footballers will get out of military service if they win tonight... |
That's pathetic and completely unfair to everyone else who has to do their term of service. I now have a new reason to root for the Japanese underdogs. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody who medals gets out of military service and is paid a pension every month for the rest of their lives.
The argument is that by medaling, athletes have served their country more than they would in the military. I can see the argument and a few medalists aren't going to do the country any better by being a glorified janitor for a couple of years. But it's still unfair and one can argue that most people would probably serve their country better by getting job during that time and paying taxes. Then again, well-connected rich kids also get out or get an easier time so why not athletes who worked their asses off? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the UK is the only country in the world where the athletes just get a medal and nothing else. Still, it hasn't seemed to have put them off. |
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cj1976
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| I think the UK is the only country in the world where the athletes just get a medal and nothing else. Still, it hasn't seemed to have put them off. |
I think their agents are shrewder than that. Most of them will probably be able to financially milk their success in the form of sponsorship, advertising and TV appearances etc. People like Daley Thompson are still doing the after-dinner circuit lol.. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Korea v Japan |
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| crisdean wrote: |
| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Apparantly the Korean footballers will get out of military service if they win tonight... |
That's pathetic and completely unfair to everyone else who has to do their term of service. I now have a new reason to root for the Japanese underdogs. |
I'll still be going for Korea, but I agree with you. I don't think it is fair to others. |
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artyom
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| I think the UK is the only country in the world where the athletes just get a medal and nothing else. Still, it hasn't seemed to have put them off. |
That's not entirely true. All GB gold medalists get their picture on a stamp and a post box in their hometown painted gold ... now if that's not incentive, I don't know what is! |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| President Lee visited Dokdo before the match. Japanese weren't too pleased. ...putting the future relationship under serious question mark... That was before the match. Now they sound like sore losers with capital S. |
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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| President Lee visited Dokdo before the match. Japanese weren't too pleased. ...putting the future relationship under serious question mark... That was before the match. Now they sound like sore losers with capital S. |
Presumably they would have been justified if Japan had won? What a ludicrous comment. |
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gobbledygook
Joined: 18 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Korea v Japan |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Apparantly the Korean footballers will get out of military service if they win tonight so check out their expressions of joy/devastation after the final whistle. Imagine the pressure on a guy who misses a vital penalty |
Where did you hear this from? |
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SMOE NSET
Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Any male Korean gets released from the mandatory military service if they:
- receive any medal in the Olympics
- receive either gold or silver in the Asian Games
- receive either gold or silver in the World Baseball Classic (might be just gold)
- make the finals in the World Cup (the Korea/Japan World Cup was a special occasion as it was the first time for Korea to reach the quarters)
There might be more but those are the main ways. Korea just made a rule that the players actually have to play in a game to receive the release from military service. Hence, the one Korean player being brought in with 3 minutes left of the bronze medal game. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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receive either gold or silver in the Asian Games
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I heard it was just gold
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| make the finals in the World Cup (the Korea/Japan World Cup was a special occasion as it was the first time for Korea to reach the quarters |
Don't exactly know what you mean by 'make the finals in the world cup.' You mean just get there, as that should be fairly routine for South Korea to achieve with the easiest regional group stages? Maybe you mean get into the knockout stages? By the way, South Korea reached the semis in 2002. Yes I know it's difficult to believe. |
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SMOE NSET
Joined: 25 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Might be just gold for the Asian games. I heard silver too though.
Yeah, they reached the semis. My mistake. By finals, I meant the final game for the World Cup tournament. I'm basing this off of public pressure if they do actually ever reach the finals. I don't think it is an actual exemption rule. However, I am sure they will receive the exemption from the conscription if they reached the finals. The public will be demanding it and it will allow a politician to look good. You never know though. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| figshdg wrote: |
| andrewchon wrote: |
| President Lee visited Dokdo before the match. Japanese weren't too pleased. ...putting the future relationship under serious question mark... That was before the match. Now they sound like sore losers with capital S. |
Presumably they would have been justified if Japan had won? What a ludicrous comment. |
That was gloating. I can say what ever I want, after the result. Have not learnt to taunt your rival? It's fair game to kick 'em when they are down. |
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figshdg
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| figshdg wrote: |
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| President Lee visited Dokdo before the match. Japanese weren't too pleased. ...putting the future relationship under serious question mark... That was before the match. Now they sound like sore losers with capital S. |
Presumably they would have been justified if Japan had won? What a ludicrous comment. |
That was gloating. I can say what ever I want, after the result. Have not learnt to taunt your rival? It's fair game to kick 'em when they are down. |
In which case, President Lee looks so ridiculous after the women's volleyball! Korea looks pathetic on the international stage now. Takeshima is Japan's!
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