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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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| I cheer for Fanny Babou, Jack Bauer, Lars Boom, Karen Cockburn, Willem de Beer, Shitaye Eshete, Michael Fuchs, Gaylord Silly, Destinee Hooker, Yoo Suk Kim, Peter Mankoc, Mohamed Mohamed, Werner Muff, Vikky Poon, Gavin Smellie, and Diju V. |
Got a problem with Yoshie Takeshita, mate?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshie_Takeshita |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| I cheer for Fanny Babou, Jack Bauer, Lars Boom, Karen Cockburn, Willem de Beer, Shitaye Eshete, Michael Fuchs, Gaylord Silly, Destinee Hooker, Yoo Suk Kim, Peter Mankoc, Mohamed Mohamed, Werner Muff, Vikky Poon, Gavin Smellie, and Diju V. |
Got a problem with Yoshie Takeshita, mate?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshie_Takeshita |
Hehe, not heard of her until now  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm "against" uber nationalism, people who attribute victory to some kind of racial supremecy (sound like nazis, huh?) and put defeat down to either cheating opponents or poor judging.
After the fencing, swimming and a couple of other "botched calls" there were many in the Korean camp calling for the team to return home and boycott the rest of the games. What amazing sportsmanship! 
For these reasons I guess you could say I'm against Korea in the Olympics, and/or any other international sporting arena they participate in.
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I'm against people who think that because SOME people demonstrate poor sportmanship that they are representative of all other people of that nationality.
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Oh...gee...wow.....thanks for that amazing insight.
And for taking the time to inform me about something everyone everywhere already knows.
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As your quote amply shows...you were the one person who apparently didn't. Welcome to the 21st century. |
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Dave Chance
Joined: 30 May 2011
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That's pretty dishonest of you to post the Korean athlete's plastic house, yet post a generic Masai's house. The Masai runner who broke the world record and who you are comparing against the Korean gymnast is David Rudisha. His father was a Olympic silver medalist and his mother a hurdler. They were both school teachers as well and live in comparably a western style mansion compared to the Korean gymnast as seen at 6:58 in this news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQT5uEqPN8&feature=related |
Yes, really I planned it that way
Well good job in turning up that video on Rudisha. His house does look okay on the outside.
He does farm and tend to cattle when away from the track.
And he did put in a tremendous effort. |
You don't think that maybe, I dunno, they have like tractors and pick-up trucks and farm equipment and stuff like that.
Or because he's African he runs around stripped to the waist with a stick? and lives in a straw hut while slapping cattle?
Hmm...for all the grief Koreans get about stereotypical views of Africans, it seems one poster here has those as well.
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You're waaay off here-
Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts?
Never said Rudisha runs around stripped to the waist, and already acknowledged and commented on the fact that it turns out he lives in a modern house.
I'll just assume you've had a few too many. |
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canoe_jesuit
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: against |
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| against.. watching korea eat scat makes me happy |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: Re: against |
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| against.. watching korea eat scat makes me happy |
That is so incredibly...sad. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
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That's pretty dishonest of you to post the Korean athlete's plastic house, yet post a generic Masai's house. The Masai runner who broke the world record and who you are comparing against the Korean gymnast is David Rudisha. His father was a Olympic silver medalist and his mother a hurdler. They were both school teachers as well and live in comparably a western style mansion compared to the Korean gymnast as seen at 6:58 in this news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQT5uEqPN8&feature=related |
Yes, really I planned it that way
Well good job in turning up that video on Rudisha. His house does look okay on the outside.
He does farm and tend to cattle when away from the track.
And he did put in a tremendous effort. |
You don't think that maybe, I dunno, they have like tractors and pick-up trucks and farm equipment and stuff like that.
Or because he's African he runs around stripped to the waist with a stick? and lives in a straw hut while slapping cattle?
Hmm...for all the grief Koreans get about stereotypical views of Africans, it seems one poster here has those as well.
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You're waaay off here-
Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts?
Never said Rudisha runs around stripped to the waist, and already acknowledged and commented on the fact that it turns out he lives in a modern house.
I'll just assume you've had a few too many. |
You only claimed that after you were proven to be FLAT OUT WRONG.
Dude, you posted a photo of a mud hut as the dude's place to live.
Not only was that stereotypically bigoted, it was factually wrong.
Now instead of having the "sportsmanship" and "class" to admit your mistake you try to claim that you didn't say that he "didn't have modern farm equipment".
So you know what, looks like your sportsmanship is the same as a Koreans. You and a Korean are THE SAME. You were proven wrong, you were proven to hold stereotypical views of Masai Africans as mud hutters. And yet rather than admit it, you try to make excuses and accuse the people judging you of being under influences. Gee, sound familiar?
Just goes to show that the basher/hater mentality is exactly the same as the "ignorant, bigoted Korean" mentality they claim to be against.
Seriously, "I'm against blind, simplistic, hateful nationalism. I always root against Korea." Does that statement make any sense? Or is it the statement of someone who is exactly like that which they hate. Projection? |
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Dave Chance
Joined: 30 May 2011
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
That's pretty dishonest of you to post the Korean athlete's plastic house, yet post a generic Masai's house. The Masai runner who broke the world record and who you are comparing against the Korean gymnast is David Rudisha. His father was a Olympic silver medalist and his mother a hurdler. They were both school teachers as well and live in comparably a western style mansion compared to the Korean gymnast as seen at 6:58 in this news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQT5uEqPN8&feature=related |
Yes, really I planned it that way
Well good job in turning up that video on Rudisha. His house does look okay on the outside.
He does farm and tend to cattle when away from the track.
And he did put in a tremendous effort. |
You don't think that maybe, I dunno, they have like tractors and pick-up trucks and farm equipment and stuff like that.
Or because he's African he runs around stripped to the waist with a stick? and lives in a straw hut while slapping cattle?
Hmm...for all the grief Koreans get about stereotypical views of Africans, it seems one poster here has those as well.
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You're waaay off here-
Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts?
Never said Rudisha runs around stripped to the waist, and already acknowledged and commented on the fact that it turns out he lives in a modern house.
I'll just assume you've had a few too many. |
You only claimed that after you were proven to be FLAT OUT WRONG.
Dude, you posted a photo of a mud hut as the dude's place to live.
Not only was that stereotypically bigoted, it was factually wrong.
Now instead of having the "sportsmanship" and "class" to admit your mistake you try to claim that you didn't say that he "didn't have modern farm equipment".
So you know what, looks like your sportsmanship is the same as a Koreans. You and a Korean are THE SAME. You were proven wrong, you were proven to hold stereotypical views of Masai Africans as mud hutters. And yet rather than admit it, you try to make excuses and accuse the people judging you of being under influences. Gee, sound familiar?
Just goes to show that the basher/hater mentality is exactly the same as the "ignorant, bigoted Korean" mentality they claim to be against.
Seriously, "I'm against blind, simplistic, hateful nationalism. I always root against Korea." Does that statement make any sense? Or is it the statement of someone who is exactly like that which they hate. Projection? |
...as bolded above, I didn't label it as his house.
When it was pointed out to me that he lived in a decent-looking place, I didn't hesitate in conceding the fact.
U wanna keep flying off the handle on what's basically a dead issue, go right ahead.
It doesn't help your cause that the most blatant example of simplistic idiotic nationalism displayed in the games was the Korean soccer player holding up the "Dokdo is ours" proclamation. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I just read that some Korean soccer player will not be given his bronze medal because he held up a "Dokdo is ours" poster after the bronze medal win. The game was against Japan - utterly tasteless. Then there was the badminton scandal. Then the netizen attacks on the Swiss soccer player, and incessant booing every time he touched the ball because he had fouled a Korean player, that led him to his stupid racist tweet against Koreans. etc. It seems no olympics can proceed far without a Korea-related scandal.
Another thing. I watched the Korean-Japan soccer game. The Korean team, while good, were filthy. They played like a bunch of thugs. But Koreans shrug it off, or insist it never happened. But when the Swiss player (or any opponent) fouls a Korean they are unforgiving and express an aggressive dislike for that person (and often his country). When that Ono guy allegedly cheated years ago the whole country went beserk, like a nation of self-absorbed, hysterical teenagers. And of course the accompanying anti-Americanism wasn't far behind. And every world cup every ajumma suddenly becomes a soccer expert, second-guessing every call against Korea. Sigh. Then there was this classic from the Seoul Olympics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY
So no, I am not a supporter of South Korea in international competitions.
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
That's pretty dishonest of you to post the Korean athlete's plastic house, yet post a generic Masai's house. The Masai runner who broke the world record and who you are comparing against the Korean gymnast is David Rudisha. His father was a Olympic silver medalist and his mother a hurdler. They were both school teachers as well and live in comparably a western style mansion compared to the Korean gymnast as seen at 6:58 in this news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQT5uEqPN8&feature=related |
Yes, really I planned it that way
Well good job in turning up that video on Rudisha. His house does look okay on the outside.
He does farm and tend to cattle when away from the track.
And he did put in a tremendous effort. |
You don't think that maybe, I dunno, they have like tractors and pick-up trucks and farm equipment and stuff like that.
Or because he's African he runs around stripped to the waist with a stick? and lives in a straw hut while slapping cattle?
Hmm...for all the grief Koreans get about stereotypical views of Africans, it seems one poster here has those as well.
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You're waaay off here-
Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts?
Never said Rudisha runs around stripped to the waist, and already acknowledged and commented on the fact that it turns out he lives in a modern house.
I'll just assume you've had a few too many. |
You only claimed that after you were proven to be FLAT OUT WRONG.
Dude, you posted a photo of a mud hut as the dude's place to live.
Not only was that stereotypically bigoted, it was factually wrong.
Now instead of having the "sportsmanship" and "class" to admit your mistake you try to claim that you didn't say that he "didn't have modern farm equipment".
So you know what, looks like your sportsmanship is the same as a Koreans. You and a Korean are THE SAME. You were proven wrong, you were proven to hold stereotypical views of Masai Africans as mud hutters. And yet rather than admit it, you try to make excuses and accuse the people judging you of being under influences. Gee, sound familiar?
Just goes to show that the basher/hater mentality is exactly the same as the "ignorant, bigoted Korean" mentality they claim to be against.
Seriously, "I'm against blind, simplistic, hateful nationalism. I always root against Korea." Does that statement make any sense? Or is it the statement of someone who is exactly like that which they hate. Projection? |
...as bolded above, I didn't label it as his house.
When it was pointed out to me that he lived in a decent-looking place, I didn't hesitate in conceding the fact.
U wanna keep flying off the handle on what's basically a dead issue, go right ahead.
It doesn't help your cause that the most blatant example of simplistic idiotic nationalism displayed in the games was the Korean soccer player holding up the "Dokdo is ours" proclamation. |
Not the Swiss soccer player who spouted off racist tweets about Koreans? Or the Greek lady who voiced her support for a Neo-Nazi political party?
I assume you'll be cheering against Switzerland and Greece in the future as well.
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| ...as bolded above, I didn't label it as his house. |
That's extremely disingenuous of you. You showed a mud hut. You didn't even show some cheap concrete block apartment or house. You showed a mud hut.
If you weren't trying to label it as his house, then why didn't you show, say, a plethora of different houses in Africa, ranging from a poor shanty to modest suburban homes, to upscale condos and ranches?
Why, because just like that bigoted Korean people take issues with, you assume that a person from an African tribe must be living in a hut and running around with a spear in traditional garb.
And when you say tend cattle, you make it sound like he's some farmer standing there with a stick and watching the herd, like he's something completely different. Can't possibly have the same equipment and manners as a farmer from Korea or America. No, he's African- all the tools must be wooden and no electricity.
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| Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts? |
Let's see they live in a mansion, do you think it's just wheelbarrows? You think these people don't read books on farming or look at better equipment when it comes to bettering their farm? Do you think they made it as Olympians and teachers by adopting a "meh, this is good enough" mentality?
Come on. People from Africa aren't just old-fashioned subsistence farmers who leisurely go about their business, ignoring technological developments. Just because they belong to a tribe doesn't mean they live in a mud hut. What, you don't think they'd want to send their kids to school and see them advance and thrive?
Nope, they're "simple" Africans.
You failed. Badly. Your hero is not the lowly bushman you tried to make him out to be. Guess the playing field was a bit more even, dare I say, the guy from Africa was given a better hand at the start than the guy from Korea. |
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Dave Chance
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Dave Chance wrote: |
| madoka wrote: |
That's pretty dishonest of you to post the Korean athlete's plastic house, yet post a generic Masai's house. The Masai runner who broke the world record and who you are comparing against the Korean gymnast is David Rudisha. His father was a Olympic silver medalist and his mother a hurdler. They were both school teachers as well and live in comparably a western style mansion compared to the Korean gymnast as seen at 6:58 in this news report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQT5uEqPN8&feature=related |
Yes, really I planned it that way
Well good job in turning up that video on Rudisha. His house does look okay on the outside.
He does farm and tend to cattle when away from the track.
And he did put in a tremendous effort. |
You don't think that maybe, I dunno, they have like tractors and pick-up trucks and farm equipment and stuff like that.
Or because he's African he runs around stripped to the waist with a stick? and lives in a straw hut while slapping cattle?
Hmm...for all the grief Koreans get about stereotypical views of Africans, it seems one poster here has those as well.
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You're waaay off here-
Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts?
Never said Rudisha runs around stripped to the waist, and already acknowledged and commented on the fact that it turns out he lives in a modern house.
I'll just assume you've had a few too many. |
You only claimed that after you were proven to be FLAT OUT WRONG.
Dude, you posted a photo of a mud hut as the dude's place to live.
Not only was that stereotypically bigoted, it was factually wrong.
Now instead of having the "sportsmanship" and "class" to admit your mistake you try to claim that you didn't say that he "didn't have modern farm equipment".
So you know what, looks like your sportsmanship is the same as a Koreans. You and a Korean are THE SAME. You were proven wrong, you were proven to hold stereotypical views of Masai Africans as mud hutters. And yet rather than admit it, you try to make excuses and accuse the people judging you of being under influences. Gee, sound familiar?
Just goes to show that the basher/hater mentality is exactly the same as the "ignorant, bigoted Korean" mentality they claim to be against.
Seriously, "I'm against blind, simplistic, hateful nationalism. I always root against Korea." Does that statement make any sense? Or is it the statement of someone who is exactly like that which they hate. Projection? |
...as bolded above, I didn't label it as his house.
When it was pointed out to me that he lived in a decent-looking place, I didn't hesitate in conceding the fact.
U wanna keep flying off the handle on what's basically a dead issue, go right ahead.
It doesn't help your cause that the most blatant example of simplistic idiotic nationalism displayed in the games was the Korean soccer player holding up the "Dokdo is ours" proclamation. |
Not the Swiss soccer player who spouted off racist tweets about Koreans? Or the Greek lady who voiced her support for a Neo-Nazi political party?
I assume you'll be cheering against Switzerland and Greece in the future as well.
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| ...as bolded above, I didn't label it as his house. |
That's extremely disingenuous of you. You showed a mud hut. You didn't even show some cheap concrete block apartment or house. You showed a mud hut.
If you weren't trying to label it as his house, then why didn't you show, say, a plethora of different houses in Africa, ranging from a poor shanty to modest suburban homes, to upscale condos and ranches?
Why, because just like that bigoted Korean people take issues with, you assume that a person from an African tribe must be living in a hut and running around with a spear in traditional garb.
And when you say tend cattle, you make it sound like he's some farmer standing there with a stick and watching the herd, like he's something completely different. Can't possibly have the same equipment and manners as a farmer from Korea or America. No, he's African- all the tools must be wooden and no electricity.
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| Never said they didn't have modern farm equipment- Do u know for a fact whether they do, and in appreciable amounts? |
Let's see they live in a mansion, do you think it's just wheelbarrows? You think these people don't read books on farming or look at better equipment when it comes to bettering their farm? Do you think they made it as Olympians and teachers by adopting a "meh, this is good enough" mentality?
Come on. People from Africa aren't just old-fashioned subsistence farmers who leisurely go about their business, ignoring technological developments. Just because they belong to a tribe doesn't mean they live in a mud hut. What, you don't think they'd want to send their kids to school and see them advance and thrive?
Nope, they're "simple" Africans.
You failed. Badly. Your hero is not the lowly bushman you tried to make him out to be. Guess the playing field was a bit more even, dare I say, the guy from Africa was given a better hand at the start than the guy from Korea. |
Okay, Steel, if u say so. I mean, u may actually be right about him having a better start, but you make crying babies and PMS mood swings look like a walk in the park. Talk about being ruled by emotion.
And as pointed out above by Scorpion, the Koreans take the grand prize in poor sportsmanship. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| -1 for Dave Chance |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| but you make crying babies and PMS mood swings look like a walk in the park. Talk about being ruled by emotion. |
No, I think being ruled by emotion would be the person who judged a single runner from Kenya as more deserving of a medal than all Korean medalists, past or present, despite knowing nothing of the Korean athletes beyond the fact that they were Korean. If that doesn't fit the definition of bigoted, I don't know what does.
In fact you even admitted to hyperbole. Which is driven by...emotion & mood swings!
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| Yeah, I'll admit I used a bit of hyperbole. |
Then he displayed brilliant "logic" by assuming that because the guy was a Masai tribesman, he must live in a mud hut and in order to make ends meet he tends cattle.
Turns out his parents live on a mansion ranch and both are teachers.
Now, does Senor Chance buck up and soberly reflect on his prejudices that led him to make a bigoted statement about Koreans and stereotype Masai Africans as mudhutters, and COMPLETELY get the Kenyan runners background wrong? Nope. To him, this is all because Steelrails is emotional and PMSy.
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transmogrifier
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Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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This thread again just highlights the fact that some people living in Korea should really be living somewhere else for their own mental health.
I have no idea how someone could get angry that Korean housewives take an interest in football every four years. Hell, in NZ, a lot of the female teachers at school were supporting the All Whites like crazy without knowing half the rules. Number of people who gave a *beep* about this = 0.
Bunch of mental cases around here. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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This thread again just highlights the fact that some people living in Korea should really be living somewhere else for their own mental health.
Bunch of mental cases around here. |
Yeah, and the majority of them tend to have an account on this site it seems.
Oh, and +1 for anyone that can respond to a post without quoting the whole damn thing. |
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