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Budongsan Lied about size and rent. What to do?
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Budongsan Lied about size and rent. What to do? Reply with quote

My gf and I moved into a place recently which the budongsan said was 18 pyeong and 1000/100만 but we found out it was actually 1000/90만 and 17 pyeong.

The contract was signed but is there anything we can do since she lied about the size and price? I know in the USA you can get your realtor's license revoked.

Any help or links would be greatly appreciated!


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CrikeyKorea



Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Heogi, Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, that sucks. Second of all, let me clarify, the monthly rent was quoted at 100,000won per month but it is fact 900,000? That is a huge discrepancy, not to hassle you but what amount was written on the contract that you signed?

Also, go to the Seoul global centre website they have a few useful links about that stuff and people to contact.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No the rent was 10 million and 1 mil monthly, but we foumd out was supposed to be 10 million and 900 thousand.
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CrikeyKorea



Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Heogi, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case if it is written on the contract there isn't much you can do. The "amount it is supposed to be" isn't really a thing. If they told you it was X amount and you agreed to it then that is the amount it is supposed to be.

As you probably know you can always change the amount you pay depending on how long you stay key money amount and all that.

In terms of them "lying" about the size, how can you be sure that they lied? Did you measure the house? remember entrance area and even the area immediately outside your door can be included as part of the "total size" which would easily make up that extra pyeong.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried searching on Seoul Global Center with no results!

As for the pyeongage, it was listed online as 17 pyeong and 1000-90
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CrikeyKorea



Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Heogi, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks, but unfortunately for you I can't imagine anything can be done about it, especially regarding the price. If say you thought it was 900,000 a month and signed and then they said no wait actually it is 1,000,000 then there would be an issue, but that didn't happen.

I guess it's not like you moved and were like oh wait this place seems around 1 pyeong less than what I would have liked and it all unfolded.

I have made many a mistake in my 5 moves here in Seoul, not checking how good the water pressure was, finding out later that next door was going to have 6 months of construction and more.

In the end of the day not much can really be done, if you thought 1 mill a month was reasonable when you signed it should still be now even though you found out it was advertised elsewhere for less.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In other countries that is grounds to have your license revoked...false advertisement.

Korea...

Anyway, thanks for your advice Crikey.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You saw the apartment. You saw the contract. You saw the price and the size on the contract. I don't know what else to tell you. I mean if I buy a TV at one store and then see it cheaper at another sale can I just take it back like that?

Get her license revoke?

Well I'm pretty sure if you don't know enough Korean to read your own lease then you won't be able to get her license revoked.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

viciousdinosaur wrote:
You saw the apartment. You saw the contract. You saw the price and the size on the contract. I don't know what else to tell you. I mean if I buy a TV at one store and then see it cheaper at another sale can I just take it back like that?

Get her license revoke?

Well I'm pretty sure if you don't know enough Korean to read your own lease then you won't be able to get her license revoked.


Hi and thanks for being an unhelpful ass. My girlfriend handled the contract as I was busy working. I suppose it was our fault for trusting that another human being would be decent enough to tell the truth. Also the contract does not include pyeongage but breaks down 3 different sections of square meters. My girlfriend is Korean and I speak it well but I appreciate your condescension. This is why I never use Dave's again.
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Lazio



Joined: 15 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is because pyeong measurement system is outdated and now the square meters are official and on every paper the size will be in square meters, that's law.
I wouldn�t care much about the �pyeong� size they tell you anyways because it�s not the real size of the place. There is a paper about the place which shows the size in square meters, finish date and the ownership and dept situation etc.
I assume you saw the place before you rented it and you chose it because it was good sized for your needs and not because it was 18 pyeong instead of 17.

Pricewise the contract is signed and whatever it says you should pay that amount. Landlords can change their mind about the price and lower it or raise it as they wish while they are trying to find tenants.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triban wrote:
viciousdinosaur wrote:
You saw the apartment. You saw the contract. You saw the price and the size on the contract. I don't know what else to tell you. I mean if I buy a TV at one store and then see it cheaper at another sale can I just take it back like that?

Get her license revoke?

Well I'm pretty sure if you don't know enough Korean to read your own lease then you won't be able to get her license revoked.


Hi and thanks for being an unhelpful ass. My girlfriend handled the contract as I was busy working. I suppose it was our fault for trusting that another human being would be decent enough to tell the truth. Also the contract does not include pyeongage but breaks down 3 different sections of square meters. My girlfriend is Korean and I speak it well but I appreciate your condescension. This is why I never use Dave's again.



Yeah, you're the one trying to get some hard-working realtor's license revoke because you were to busy to read something as trivial as your lease, but I'm the ass, right?

Why don't you man-up and just accept that you F-up.
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timhorton



Joined: 07 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

viciousdinosaur wrote:
Triban wrote:
viciousdinosaur wrote:
You saw the apartment. You saw the contract. You saw the price and the size on the contract. I don't know what else to tell you. I mean if I buy a TV at one store and then see it cheaper at another sale can I just take it back like that?

Get her license revoke?

Well I'm pretty sure if you don't know enough Korean to read your own lease then you won't be able to get her license revoked.


Hi and thanks for being an unhelpful ass. My girlfriend handled the contract as I was busy working. I suppose it was our fault for trusting that another human being would be decent enough to tell the truth. Also the contract does not include pyeongage but breaks down 3 different sections of square meters. My girlfriend is Korean and I speak it well but I appreciate your condescension. This is why I never use Dave's again.



Yeah, you're the one trying to get some hard-working realtor's license revoke because you were to busy to read something as trivial as your lease, but I'm the ass, right?

Why don't you man-up and just accept that you F-up.


Hey Dino!

Don't respond to messages that you cannot contribute to! Arn't you busy enough with your other useless posts (i.e. the loser one)?
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timhorton



Joined: 07 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - Are you talking about an Officetel?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, tell us again why you think you were lied to? Is it simply because there was a discrepancy between the online listing and the contract you agreed to?
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I understand correctly, you signed a contract for a million a month but later realized or learned that the landlord would have accepted (or even expected) 900,000?

Regardless of the apartment size, you were happy to sign the contract for the apartment for the 1,000,000--am I right? If that's the case, you can't blame the budongsan or the landlord because you and/or your girlfriend have poor negotiation skills.

It's like when you buy a car--if you walk into a dealership and say "How much is this new Accord? Okay, I'll pay that." then you shouldn't get upset with the dealer when you learn that your neighbor got the same car for less.
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