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Harrismij
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 Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: Seoul axing all native speakers by 2014? |
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I am going to study Hospitality management for my final semester in fall 2013 at Kyung Hee university in Seoul. I was inquiring about doing some teaching on the side to make some money while i was there. Until i read this article that made it pretty clear that the opportunities in Seoul would soon be non existent. My question now, Is it even worth getting Tesol certified if I will be in Seoul? Would i be able to teach in cities surrounding Seoul or is this exodus of native english speakers on a national level?
I was so excited to deal with Korean kids and help introduce them to American culture, but now it seems like that is never going to happen in Seoul!
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2011/12/08/seoul-to-sack-all-native-english-speaking-teachers-by-2014/ |
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Captain Corea
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Location: Seoul
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| There are lots of places to teach in Seoul that are not in the public school system. |
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Hugo85
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Less English teachers in Seoul probably means that the same demand for privates is met by fewer people. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Take a wait and see attitude. Will they really be gone by 2014? Let's watch the election outcomes this year and also the economic conditions. |
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viciousdinosaur
Joined: 30 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Seoul axing all native speakers by 2014? |
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| Harrismij wrote: |
I am going to study Hospitality management for my final semester in fall 2013 at Kyung Hee university in Seoul. I was inquiring about doing some teaching on the side to make some money while i was there. Until i read this article that made it pretty clear that the opportunities in Seoul would soon be non existent. My question now, Is it even worth getting Tesol certified if I will be in Seoul? Would i be able to teach in cities surrounding Seoul or is this exodus of native english speakers on a national level?
I was so excited to deal with Korean kids and help introduce them to American culture, but now it seems like that is never going to happen in Seoul!
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2011/12/08/seoul-to-sack-all-native-english-speaking-teachers-by-2014/ |
1) As a university student you couldn't work at a public school anyways. You couldn't actually work anywhere legally.
2) The TESOL? The only places that would even care you can't work at, because it's illegal to teach on a student visa.
3) Teach Korean kids American culture? That's cute. You'd have about the same amount of luck as going to Alabama and teaching evolution. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| A native speaker earns on average W42 million a year, and we concluded that they are not effective enough to justify the cost,� a spokesman for the city office of education said. �A survey conducted for us showed that Korean teachers with outstanding English and teaching skills are more effective in the long term. |
Of course they're more effective. They also make the tests that determine the students' level of success. For NETs to be "effective", we'd have to start teaching the same rote memorization garbage the VAST majority of Korean English teachers teach such that their students will be good at multiple-choice-question only English tests.
Over the past few years I've noticed a dramatic increase in the general English fluency and accuracy levels of public school students. We might not be making them better at scoring high on bullshit tests, but we damn well are making them better communicators in English. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Native teachers earn 42 mil won average in public system?  Costs is more likely.  |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Seoul axing all native speakers by 2014? |
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| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| 1) As a university student you couldn't work at a public school anyways. You couldn't actually work anywhere legally. |
You can work up to 20 hours a week with permission from the department according to visa regulations I believe. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| andrewchon wrote: |
| Native teachers earn 42 mil won average in public system? Costs is more likely. |
Korean budgets are regularly inflated so higher-ups can get their skim on. Your school's getting 60 million for English classroom upgrades? You can bet a decent percentage of that makes it no where near the English classroom.
Though with the price of housing in Seoul, I don't really doubt that 42 million number. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Seoul axing all native speakers by 2014? |
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| Hugo85 wrote: |
| viciousdinosaur wrote: |
| 1) As a university student you couldn't work at a public school anyways. You couldn't actually work anywhere legally. |
You can work up to 20 hours a week with permission from the department according to visa regulations I believe. |
I've heard this too.
But who could hire this person? They wouldn't be qualified according to most Ed. offices, right?
That 20 hour thing is so that foreign students can pick up part time jobs while studying. |
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