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Recruiter recommendations? (gyopo having a hard time!)
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:52 am    Post subject: Recruiter recommendations? (gyopo having a hard time!) Reply with quote

Hi there. I've contacted about 20 recruiters since early August and I've only heard back from about 5 or so. Initially it was just one, so I had to call a few of them to get any sort of response. No interview offers so far. I've even posted my resume on here and on a few other sites as well.

I'm looking for a position that starts next month or in November. I have a TESOL certificate, but I am a first-timer, a gyopo (born in the US), and I would like to work in either Seoul or anywhere in Gyeonggi-do. I'm sure that this is the problem, but it shouldn't be this difficult, right?

I know that a lot of hagwons want to save on airfare, so I am thinking about flying to Korea on my own as a last resort. But can anyone recommend some recruiters? Especially those who are willing to work with gyopos.

Thank you. Smile
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recruiters are employed to hire people for hard to fill positions, like white female for a job in the countryside. If schools want a Gyopo, they post an ad online and boom, 10,000 people send in their resume. There's actually more Korean-Americans living in Seoul than there are English-teachers from all other countries combined. I'm sorry to say, but any school that hired you would be truly desperate and perhaps you wouldn't want to work for them.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd still appreciate some recruiter recommendations. I'm aware of the esl market situation, but I still have some hope left. Also, anyone else having the same problem (gyopo or non-white)? Would appreciate some more advice from those who managed to find jobs. Sigh =/

edit: Looked around and it looks like many people are having a tough time right now regardless of race/gender/qualifications/etc
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping "hope" isn't going to land you a job. Being in the right place at the right time is. Korea was the right place in 2006. You are late by six years.

Teaching English is Korea is supposed to be a fall-back job. The last resort after failing to land a real job back home. The fact that it has become the primary objective of many is pathetic.

If you want to keep hope, keep hope of finding a job back home. If this is more personal because you are Korean, then fly over here and work in a different industry. You don't have to teach. If it's not personal, go to a country that is hiring.

Things in the US will pick up soon. The Fed is finally committing to a policy of inflation which is the only thing that is going to save the American economy, massive devaluation.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working in Korea is definitely a personal choice for me. I'm planning on switching gears once I have enough money to find my own housing.
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teedram



Joined: 23 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VD - what is your problem? If you can't answer someone's question, just refrain from posting.

@ the OP - keep trying. The job market has many applicants these days - more than ever. You're right that it may help to open up to more places in Korea, at least other cities. I do know a gyopo who got placed in a smaller city right next to Seoul and lives close to a subway station. Same as you - TESOL and no prior experience. So it's possible.

Korearecruiting.com ~ if you haven't tried this agency, you may want to contact the recruiter by e-mail. I've talked to him and he's great, very helpful even after getting my job (and I didn't get it through him).
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teedram wrote:
VD - what is your problem? If you can't answer someone's question, just refrain from posting.

@ the OP - keep trying. The job market has many applicants these days - more than ever. You're right that it may help to open up to more places in Korea, at least other cities. I do know a gyopo who got placed in a smaller city right next to Seoul and lives close to a subway station. Same as you - TESOL and no prior experience. So it's possible.

Korearecruiting.com ~ if you haven't tried this agency, you may want to contact the recruiter by e-mail. I've talked to him and he's great, very helpful even after getting my job (and I didn't get it through him).


what's YOUR problem? You scold me and then give him the exact same advice. Except I'm giving him the cold-hard facts in an attempt to save him from wasting a year of his life waiting around for a job. Will he find a job? Yeah, sure, someday. But every week you aren't working is a week you are losing money.
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austrian123



Joined: 15 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

viciousdinosaur wrote:
Keeping "hope" isn't going to land you a job. Being in the right place at the right time is. Korea was the right place in 2006. You are late by six years.

Teaching English is Korea is supposed to be a fall-back job. The last resort after failing to land a real job back home. The fact that it has become the primary objective of many is pathetic.

If you want to keep hope, keep hope of finding a job back home. If this is more personal because you are Korean, then fly over here and work in a different industry. You don't have to teach. If it's not personal, go to a country that is hiring.

Things in the US will pick up soon. The Fed is finally committing to a policy of inflation which is the only thing that is going to save the American economy, massive devaluation.


VD you are one of smarter posters on this site. Kudos to you.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicious - Well, I actually am working though. No need to worry about me losing money. Thanks though.

teedram - Thanks for the positive post. I'll try that recruiter out. Smile
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you waste your golden ticket f4 visa working for a school? just do privates and make your own schedule since you can do it legally...
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
why would you waste your golden ticket f4 visa working for a school? just do privates and make your own schedule since you can do it legally...

I know that I can tutor and work part time. The problem is that I have no place to stay in Korea, nor do I have enough money to find my own place. Should I stay at a goshiwon for a few months? I'm not really sure what I should do besides finding a hagwon w/ housing for a somewhat stable start. Also, I don't have an F4 visa. I actually have dual citizenship now because of this weird new law... perhaps you guys have heard about it.

On the plus side, I'm finally getting some emails.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have a cut and paste resonse to throw up on threads like this. Need to find that again.

In a nut shell, use any and all recruiters until you find a job that suits you. Blanket the market.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
I used to have a cut and paste resonse to throw up on threads like this. Need to find that again.


I have been thinking of doing that. Mine will just include the hundred or so similar questions asked before.
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viciousdinosaur



Joined: 30 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are male, are you aware that you may be drafted if you come to Korea? Holding Korean citizenship means you are obligated to do military service.

If you are female, just chill, you'll be offered a job soon.
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staygold



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VD - I'm exempted from military service. Thanks for asking. Smile Since I was born and raised overseas, I just had to fill out some forms.

Skippy wrote:
PRagic wrote:
I used to have a cut and paste resonse to throw up on threads like this. Need to find that again.


I have been thinking of doing that. Mine will just include the hundred or so similar questions asked before.

Sorry. I thought I'd try asking anyway for some recruiter recommendations. A lot of them advertise gyopo jobs, but many want people who are already in Korea and don't offer housing.

But yeah, like I said, things are kinda looking up.
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