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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: What's the deal with vegetarianism? |
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I mean this is something I just don't get. How can you deny yourself such good food? What kind of cause would motivate you to such a life style of self-denial of some really good grub?
And...is it possible to be like a part-time vegetarian such as only eating meat on say Thanksgiving, Christmas and the 4th of July?
I will admit some people have lost weight and do look thin (as in a healthy thin) but others I have seen look rather gaunt. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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watch
Earthlings
forks over knives
food inc.
if you must watch only one, then watch Forks over knives.
but.. yes you are right. being 100% doesn't really make a different to being say a 6 days a week vegetarian. or eating healthy.
I think the vegan movement is more about going green, stopping the dependence on animal proteins, showing that a plant, fruit and whole grain diet is more than sufficient enough for humans to live on, and healthier.
I mean why do humans have to switch from breasts milks to cows milk?
think how ridiculous that sounds for a minute? we are the only species who do that. cow milk is for calves. not for humans.
but sure, we can eat meats, drink milk, eat cheese and enjoy the tastes of other animals and foods, but I think to eat responsibly is what people are saying. regards to meats, it's not so much that meats are bad for us, in large quantities it is scientists have proved it to be. but it's more about stopping the 10 billion animals a year from being slaughtered for our own food, which is not necessary, but companies associated with those foods will push their agenda on us. school lunches, military foods, etc.
everything with government contracts are big money for them so they will try and tell us it's important in our diets.
we were brought up to believe cows milk help us grow. that was financed by the dairy industry to boost their sales. just like the meat industry.
huge profits in that. but where are the huge profits in going green?
most people can grow their own fruit and veges. sure there are profits in veges and fruits, but the meat and diary industry and everyone associated with it, are not going to easily give it up, think Big pharma and big Tobacco.
I grew up eating meat, and I like the food, lamb chops, steaks, meat balls, etc.. so I will continue to eat meat. but I am cutting out processed meat.
and trying to select grass fed meat, organic fed cows etc.
we can make responsible choices regarding our eating habits.
I think the vegetarians and vegans are just like don't be a part time vegan be a full time vegan, you know. don't be a part time smoker either you are a smoker or you are not. best to not be.
but for someone like me who has very good will power.
I can be a part time smoker, a part time recreational drug user, and a part time vegan so to speak. I don't have an additive personality.
I don't go to the gym everyday, I go sometimes, I don't eat raw salads everyday, I eat them 70% of the time. you know what I mean?
ohh and I am now a non smoker, but I was a part time smoker. weekends, drunk, social etc.
so yeah you make a vaild point.
I mean if more people would just become part time meat eaters it would surely make a better carbon footprint for us all, and reduce the numbers of animals being slaughtered. and of course make you healthier
I think those people who go 100% vegan or vegeterian need to for certain reason.,
1: they have low will power and could easily relapse and go back to their old style of eating
2: choose to do it for the well being of themselves and the animals on this earth
3: just because they really believe its the healthiest lifestyle choice.
and it is. but it's not the only one.
moderation of food is not gonna kill you. over indulgence and bad food choices and no exercise will.
well for most people. remember genes has a huge part of how long you will live. but you trash your body all your life even your genes will not be able to save you.
anyway,
watch.. Folks over knives |
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madhusudan
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Your honest inquiry into why people choose vegetarianism is laudable. If only more people would spend their time constructively, as you obviously do, in an attempt to broaden their knowledge, perhaps the world would be just a little bit brighter. I hope you find the answers you seek on the eslcafe message boards, though be warned there are some troll posters and other such provacateurs. Good luck in your search for truth. |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Location: We Are The World!
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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If God didn't want us to eat meat he/she wouldn't have made it taste so good.
And humans aren't the only animals to drink the milk of other species, just we're the only ones who can make it a commercial venture.
I can grow my own fruits and veg and still eat meat, the government doesn't tell me to like roast beef. Eating meat has been around far longer than the government. Humans do fun stuff like travel abroad, teach language, drive too fast, take photos, so we're different to pigs. This is not a new discovery. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a mostly pescatarian. I eat seafood, and a few times a year (Passover, Thanksgiving) I'll eat non-seafood meat. I do it because of the health reasons. Usually I don't really want to eat meat, though. If you put a steak or a goat cheese salad on a menu, I'd choose the goat cheese. I only crave meat once in a while, and when I do, it's usually organ meat like liver or tongue, and I have it because it's my body's way of saying that I need something in that food.
If I were a regular meat eater, though, I'd probably do the once or twice a week plan. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| JustinC wrote: |
If God didn't want us to eat meat he/she wouldn't have made it taste so good.
And humans aren't the only animals to drink the milk of other species, just we're the only ones who can make it a commercial venture.
I can grow my own fruits and veg and still eat meat, the government doesn't tell me to like roast beef. Eating meat has been around far longer than the government. Humans do fun stuff like travel abroad, teach language, drive too fast, take photos, so we're different to pigs. This is not a new discovery. |
which animals go off searching for a different species and suck up to their teets and have a drink?
and regarding god making meat taste good. ummm why don't you cut open a pig and eat it raw! tell me if it tastes good.
now go pick an apple from a tree and eat it raw tell me if that tastes good.
compare the two. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| People eat raw beef don't they and raw fish and seafood? |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Location: We Are The World!
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
| JustinC wrote: |
If God didn't want us to eat meat he/she wouldn't have made it taste so good.
And humans aren't the only animals to drink the milk of other species, just we're the only ones who can make it a commercial venture.
I can grow my own fruits and veg and still eat meat, the government doesn't tell me to like roast beef. Eating meat has been around far longer than the government. Humans do fun stuff like travel abroad, teach language, drive too fast, take photos, so we're different to pigs. This is not a new discovery. |
which animals go off searching for a different species and suck up to their teets and have a drink?
and regarding god making meat taste good. ummm why don't you cut open a pig and eat it raw! tell me if it tastes good.
now go pick an apple from a tree and eat it raw tell me if that tastes good.
compare the two. |
So you would rather we use oil instead of plastic, fertilizer, gas? You'd prefer to have sand windows?
And eating raw pig sounds nasty, so no thanks! |
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The Cosmic Hum

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| hmm...another thread soon not to be. |
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JustinC
Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Location: We Are The World!
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| hmm...another thread soon not to be. |
Why's that? | | |