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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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The no booze rule might have something to do with (multiple) past orientations turning into drunken frat parties that destroyed the resort.
To answer your other 3 questions, no, no and yes.
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Squire

Joined: 26 Sep 2010 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing to do with Seoul, but I was asked if I'd done 60 hours orientation here, and if not I'd have to do another one in Gwangju. For a moment I considered taking them up on that to get out of regular work for a week, but I bet it could backfire nastily if they take it out of my holidays or something sneaky like that |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Newbies, you have been preceded by some fine professionals
THere are 2 issues that GEPIK, through experience, are now cracking down on during these orientations, meetings or whatever you may call them
1. Excessive intake of alcohol
2. People skipping off early/ not showing up for their classes. |
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Bollocks
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever I'm still bringing booze. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| hope they werent suckered into having Mannam come out and do the evening stuff like they did in the summer |
What happened? |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
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| hope they werent suckered into having Mannam come out and do the evening stuff like they did in the summer |
What happened? |
apparently in june gepik had the mannam tae kwon do group come out for something and i think they also did a korean class. not sure who made that call but that was before all this came out in the foreign community |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| hope they werent suckered into having Mannam come out and do the evening stuff like they did in the summer |
What happened? |
apparently in june gepik had the mannam tae kwon do group come out for something and i think they also did a korean class. not sure who made that call but that was before all this came out in the foreign community |
GEPIK came down hard on alcohol but allowed Mannam to run GEPIK sessions? Did they use the access to recruit GEPIK members? |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Gepik should have investigated Mannam properly. I think people began being suspicious of Mannam back in June, but various foreigners, including myself, were warning about them on the internet a few months before that, but people loved the cheap activities and the charitable events and some could care less to do any research because they could take part in trips without paying much at all. When I mentioned my dealings with Mannam, a Canadian friend ignored it and didn't seem to care because he loved the trips. However, I think once many of their friends started to care and noticed, it created a band-wagon effect. The negative thing about Mannam is it might make foreigners weary about volunteering with Koreans and doing legitimate volunteer work. However, there are established volunteer groups that foreigners already know. Stick more to what's already know. Since Mannam didn't work with any clearly identifiable charities, they put up huge red flags. It wasn't clear where the money was supposed to go and how it was to be distributed. That wasn't very intelligent. Their planning was superficial. |
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NQ
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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What's this "No alcohol" rule?
To those of you who have gone to this before, do the rooms have refrigerators? Is there ice?
Do they generally take attendance for their lectures/seminars/what-have-you? |
Yeah, they do take attendance. They have sign in sheets at the front of each classroom or auditorium and it's supervised by the people working there, so you can't sign in for other people.
I don't think the rooms a fridge, according to the OP's website info. I dunno about ice.
Yeah there's no alcohol allowed which sucks because you meet new alotta new people and it would be nice to drink some booze with them. I can go three days without alcohol but it's really hard when you meet other likeminded people like you, esp. in Korealand |
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Bollocks
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Hold on. Did you say no alcohol *allowed*? That's a big difference from, "We aren't providing any alcohol."
I was not aware that I was 16 years old and living with my parents. |
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nora
Joined: 14 Apr 2012
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| Bollocks wrote: |
Hold on. Did you say no alcohol *allowed*? That's a big difference from, "We aren't providing any alcohol."
I was not aware that I was 16 years old and living with my parents. |
But you're a raging alcoholic who can't go a couple days without drinking?
As ttom pointed out, it's because of idiots in the past. Having gone to the orientation where people went off at night and got drunk, or then getting drunk in the dorms and trashing the place, and then seeing them ban alcohol and people sneaking it in and getting drunk and trashing the place... that's the reason they moved it from a nice, accessible location like Bundang/Yongin to the middle of BFE Anseong. The neighbor is a chicken/cow farm and the nearest booze is miles away.
If you can hold your booze and act like a normal human, good for you, but at every one of those meetings I had to go to, there were some real winners who ruined for everybody. |
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Bollocks
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: |
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The administration are not my parents. I neither require nor seek their permission concerning my personal time. For them to suggest otherwise is insulting.
Either:
A) This event takes place during normal working hours. Times before 8am and after 5pm are mine in which to do as I please.
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B) The entirety of the event is controlled by GEPIK. They "own" us for the duration of our time there. The time spent at the event should be considered time at work, and we should be paid for it. If they wish to control my substance abuse for 72 hours, I am owed 72 hours worth of payment. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| If you can hold your booze and act like a normal human, good for you, but at every one of those meetings I had to go to, there were some real winners who ruined for everybody. |
What did they do? Show up drunk for classes? |
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nora
Joined: 14 Apr 2012
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| If you can hold your booze and act like a normal human, good for you, but at every one of those meetings I had to go to, there were some real winners who ruined for everybody. |
What did they do? Show up drunk for classes? |
The one I went to, they trashed the rooms, skipped the meetings, and if they did come, they were hungover and slept during everything. These meetings are terrible to begin with, but going to the drunken break everything meeting and then an alcohol free, sign in meeting, it was like night and day. Don't get me wrong, both sucked, but because "I'm not 16 and don't live with my parents" and instead I "have an MA and treat my job as a job," the booze free meeting was at least tolerable. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| "have an MA and treat my job as a job," |
Nice. It's what GEPIK wants. |
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