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Shame hampers Korea's struggle against suicide
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ajosshi



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Shame hampers Korea's struggle against suicide Reply with quote

Shame hampers Korea's struggle against suicide

South Korea's efforts to curb its alarming suicide rate are being undermined by a deep-rooted belief that seeking help for mental problems leads to social and professional exclusion, health experts say.

Suicide, fuelled by an intense pressure for academic and career achievement, has become a perennial blight on a country whose rapid economic development has otherwise raised living standards and encouraged social mobility.

Figures released by the Health Ministry earlier this month showed South Korea's 2009 suicide rate of 33.8 people per 100,000 was the highest among member nations of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Hungary was a distant second with a rate of 23.3, followed by Japan with 22.2.

The figure for South Korea equates to nearly 50 suicides a day and shows a sharp increase from 2000 when the incidence of suicide was 13.6 people per 100,000.

"This is a very stressful society where worldly success weighs too heavily on people's mentality," said psychiatrist Lee Dong-Woo, spokesman of the Korea Neuro-Psychiatric Association.

"As a side-effect from the country's economic success, pressure to succeed in schools and jobs has intensified to an intolerable degree," Lee told AFP.

The government has taken some steps to address the problem, including short-term preventive measures like placing CCTV cameras on bridges over Seoul's Han river and monitoring websites for material encouraging suicides.

A law implemented in March to foster a "life-respecting culture" offered longer-term measures, including a nationwide survey, a government-run 24-hour emergency call service and a national network of suicide prevention centres.

But both health officials and experts acknowledge that increased access to counselling has only a limited impact in a culture that traditionally emphasises the virtues of stoicism and self-reliance.

"Koreans are highly reluctant to talk openly about mental health problems for fear of being socially stigmatised and discriminated against at work," said Lee Jung-Kyu, a deputy director in the Health Ministry.

For every 100 Koreans diagnosed with mental health problems, only 15 per cent seek help from experts, compared with 35-40 per cent in the United States, Australia and New Zealand, Lee said.

"This is a great problem for us in addressing this issue," he added.

-- Fear of "whispering voices" --

National health insurance covers psychiatric counselling, but people are frightened off by the accompanying "Code F" -- indicating mental health problems -- that would show up on their government health record.

"Many Koreans are afraid of whispering voices behind their backs," said Kim Sung-Il of the Korean Association for Suicide Prevention, explaining why Koreans are reluctant to visit mental health clinics.

"They also fear they might have problems in buying insurance policies and claiming insurance," Kim said.

According to government data, suicide is the single largest cause of death among young Koreans, with 13 out of every 100,000 people aged between 15 and 24 committing suicide in 2010.

Even more worrying, in what is one of the world's most rapidly aging societies, is the sharp surge in suicides among the elderly.

The suicide rate among Koreans aged 65 or older in 2009 was 72 people for every 100,000, up from an already alarming 42.2 in 2001.

South Korea provides little in the way of a social security safety net for its elderly population, with the burden of care traditionally falling on their children or other members of the extended family.

But shrinking family sizes mean that many retirees are left to fend for themselves, with little or no support.

"The traditional social fabric has been frayed too fast over too short a period," said psychology professor Hwang Sang-Min.

"As the country has been losing its family-oriented value system, the suicide and divorce rates have increased rapidly," Hwang said.

Lee of the Korea Neuro-Psychiatric Association stressed the need to strengthen social safety nets for the elderly and to change the pervading mindset -- among all ages -- that sees mental illness as a weakness rather than a disease.

"We need to make them believe there will be second chances for them down the road," Lee said.

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/500999
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some friends told me on good authority that Korea has no bankruptcy law. Heavy debts can result in jail time and stress for families. Right out of a Charles Dickens novel it is. Anyways, it's why some men commit suicide to escape it and some women either commit suicide or become prostitutes. Just adding something to this.....

Korea has become more stressful and personal debt has risen.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suicide is, of course, a mental health issue and Korea has, shall we say, a bit of a problem with recognizing that mental health issues are not indicative of bad character or an insult to family.

Korea not having a bankruptcy law must come as a surpise to these folks.
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have personal bankruptcy:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/21/2009092100269.html
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the 2009 suicide rate


What year is THIS again?

Just wondering why (if this is a problem and a trend) they choose to focus on 3 year old stats.
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highstreet



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To file for bankruptcy, is quite easy from what I've read. I've heard the percentage of approval is ridiculously high.
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newb



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Their birth rate can't keep up with the death rate.

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Suicide is, of course, a mental health issue and Korea has, shall we say, a bit of a problem with recognizing that mental health issues are not indicative of bad character or an insult to family.


I think suicide is money and face saving issue in Korea more than mental health issue. A good example is formal President Roh Moo-Hyun who offed himself by jumping off a cliff during an investigation of bribery. Instead of ridculing his act of dishonor (by western standard), most Koreans consider him a national hero.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
This is the 2009 suicide rate


What year is THIS again?

Just wondering why (if this is a problem and a trend) they choose to focus on 3 year old stats.


Lazy researchers probably, but I honestly don't think Korea has changed that much, for better or for worse, in the past 3 years.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newb wrote:
A good example is formal President Roh Moo-Hyun who offed himself by jumping off a cliff during an investigation of bribery. Instead of ridculing his act of dishonor (by western standard), most Koreans consider him a national hero.

Wouldn't say most, considering he only garnered less than half the vote with 70% voter turnout, when he was elected. But a large chunk do, but not most.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's clearly a massive issue on the order of gun crime. Combine that with the traffic safety rate and citizen well-being should hopefully be a major issue this election year.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
This is the 2009 suicide rate


What year is THIS again?

Just wondering why (if this is a problem and a trend) they choose to focus on 3 year old stats.


Lazy researchers probably, but I honestly don't think Korea has changed that much, for better or for worse, in the past 3 years.


Here's one significant change (from the same article said researchers probably used)

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Between 2006 and 2010, the number of persons treated for depression and bipolar disease in Korea rose sharply (increases of 17 and 29 per cent respectively.


Seems like the stigma has lessened considerably

http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/factbook-2011-en/12/01/03/index.html?contentType=&itemId=/content/chapter/factbook-2011-106-en&containerItemId=/content/serial/18147364&accessItemIds=&mimeType=text/html
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
They have personal bankruptcy:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/21/2009092100269.html


Ok, I stand corrected. Had a friend who knows influencial Koreans and lawyers, ect tell me this. So, I never independantly verified it. I'll pass it on to him.

He is an F5 and has told me it's really hard to get credit here and to get high limits unless you have a very high income and physical assets. So, maybe I'm guessing there is alternative credit loaning if that's true? People have killed themselves over debts and women have been forced into prostitution to pay their debts.

This might make more sense. If it's really easy to discharge your debts, banks will probably not lend easily or give credit to people.

There is also a lot of face saving and people who get emotional and act crazy doing stupid things by jumping off a building, ect.

How much is mental health and how much of it is other things?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
They have personal bankruptcy:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/21/2009092100269.html


Ok, I stand corrected. Had a friend who knows influencial Koreans and lawyers, ect tell me this. So, I never independantly verified it. I'll pass it on to him.

He is an F5 and has told me it's really hard to get credit here and to get high limits unless you have a very high income and physical assets. So, maybe I'm guessing there is alternative credit loaning if that's true? People have killed themselves over debts and women have been forced into prostitution to pay their debts.



I'd say he's pulling your leg...or doesn't know what he is talking about.

http://www.korea4expats.com/article-credit-cards.html
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Who's Your Daddy?



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people forced into prostitution are probably borrowing money from loan sharks (referred to in Korean media as "unlicensed lenders"). Bankruptcy doesn't work for those guys.
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crescent



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Weigookin74 wrote:

He is an F5 and has told me it's really hard to get credit here and to get high limits unless you have a very high income and physical assets. So, maybe I'm guessing there is alternative credit loaning if that's true? People have killed themselves over debts and women have been forced into prostitution to pay their debts.


I'd say he's pulling your leg...or doesn't know what he is talking about.

http://www.korea4expats.com/article-credit-cards.html

From your own link:
Quote:
OBTAINING A KOREAN CREDIT CARD can sometimes be difficult. There is no law against issuing a credit card to foreign residents, but many banks (or bank branch managers) are reluctant to do so...
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