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Changing mind after signing contract
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Changing mind after signing contract Reply with quote

So I am on a E2 visa and have signed a contract with a new school but have NOT submitted the documents to do the transfer I have been offered a different job which I prefer.

Am I able to take the new job without any repercussions from the first school and the fact that I have signed the contract ?
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong, but as the new school hasn't yet sponsored your visa then you can do as you please. You are under a moral obligation to let them know as soon as you can; for face-saving you could say it's a problem at your end and you hope they find a suitable teacher blah blah blah, maybe even help them search.

You can quit a job any time, even before the start date.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until the transfer had been completed and processed with Immigration it is not set.

For any action there will be consequences. Hopefully the school will get over it quickly. Do yourself and the school a favor and tell them NOW about your decision. The more you wait and hemm and haw, the more angry the jilted school will get. Be polite, be direct, and keep it simple. It you can give them some help in finding someone else, do it. Do be careful on why you have changed your mind. Just you changed it and that is it.
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks thats good to know. Yes I will tell them as soon as possible, the new job has better salary, location and vacation so its no contest really.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The changing mind will likely get them angry. The advice I gave in general is the school can not really do anything until it has been stamped and approved by immigration. I suspect if the school wanted to pursue a case against you it could be done. Not worth it, but they could raise a stink.

Careful of the school also raising a fuss other ways. Bad mouthing you to your chosen school. Arm twisting any recruiter you used who twists your arm. Careful of something my father calls bulls*t baffles brains. Basically school gets angry at your turn around. They start threatening to have you arrested, deported, fined. You as a foreigner do not know all the laws and reality. So you might change back believes their threats.

Good Luck.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adzee1 wrote:
Ok thanks thats good to know. Yes I will tell them as soon as possible, the new job has better salary, location and vacation so its no contest really.


Don't tell them the name of the school that you decided on. No need to do that.
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NilesQ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't usually recommend lying, but in this case it's the best thing to do. I'd just tell the first school that you're leaving Korea due to unforseen circumstances at home. You are leaving immediately. Thank them for the opportunity and say you're sorry for any inconvience you may have caused.

It will take an email or a 5 minute phone call to accomplish this. Don't listen to anything they say say to try to make you change your mind.

Good luck
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GuessWho



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: the universe called 'internet'

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:40 am    Post subject: deleted Reply with quote

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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuessWho wrote:
So I�m a school in Korea and have signed a contract with a teacher but the teacher has NOT given us the documents�I have found a better candidate which I prefer.

Am I able to contract the new teacher without any repercussions from the first teacher and the fact that I have offered the contract?

Hmmmm


Yes, you are able to do just that.
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adzee1



Joined: 22 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuessWho wrote:
So I�m a school in Korea and have signed a contract with a teacher but the teacher has NOT given us the documents�I have found a better candidate which I prefer.

Am I able to contract the new teacher without any repercussions from the first teacher and the fact that I have offered the contract?

Hmmmm



Good one, everyone is very impressed by your ability to be funny. Congratulations now why not go and do something useful with your time !!


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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuessWho wrote:
So I�m a school in Korea and have signed a contract with a teacher but the teacher has NOT given us the documents�I have found a better candidate which I prefer.

Am I able to contract the new teacher without any repercussions from the first teacher and the fact that I have offered the contract?

Hmmmm


Sure thing. A school can do that.

The OP can also change his or her mind, especially if no work-visa has been processed. Odds are the recruiter has not even gotten paid yet.
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CPJ



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would do as a previous poster recommended and not say you are cancelling because you have another job.

In most cases, it won't matter. However, there are things that could be done against you if you irritate a recruiter or school enough.

Just think if a school cancelled your job. And think how you would feel or react based on these 2 scenarios.

1. Your future school is very sorry but they have fewer student and can't afford to hire you anymore. They are very sorry!

2. Your future school found a teacher that they liked better so will not be hiring you anymore. You have a signed contract but they don't care.

Obviously, both puts you in a bad situation but #1 is understandable. #2 makes you want to get some revenge if possible.
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missyc8



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: not getting on the plane Reply with quote

I am suppose to leave soon for Korea and my plane ticket was issued to me by the school, what if I decide not to go... what will happen? should i just not get on the plane??
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John Stamos jr.



Joined: 07 Oct 2012
Location: Namsan

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: not getting on the plane Reply with quote

missyc8 wrote:
I am suppose to leave soon for Korea and my plane ticket was issued to me by the school, what if I decide not to go... what will happen? should i just not get on the plane??


If you don't want to go, don't go. What could they possibly do other than get angry at you about it?
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuessWho wrote:
So I�m a school in Korea and have signed a contract with a teacher but the teacher has NOT given us the documents�I have found a better candidate which I prefer.

Am I able to contract the new teacher without any repercussions from the first teacher and the fact that I have offered the contract?

Hmmmm


Sure you can do that. Worst case you'll suffer a bad write up on sites like Dave's. If you're anything like the countless other school's who've done this in the past, you'll get over it rather quickly.
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